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SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
Sat May 30, 2020, 04:57 PM May 2020

Latest in science: How much virus does it take to make you sick?

When experts recommend wearing masks, staying at least six feet away from others, washing your hands frequently and avoiding crowded spaces, what they’re really saying is: Try to minimize the amount of virus you encounter.

A few viral particles cannot make you sick — the immune system would vanquish the intruders before they could. But how much virus is needed for an infection to take root? What is the minimum effective dose?

For SARS, also a coronavirus, the estimated infective dose is just a few hundred particles. For MERS, it is much higher, on the order of thousands.

The new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, is more similar to SARS and, therefore, the infectious dose may be hundreds of particles, Dr. Rasmussen said.

But the virus has a history of defying predictions.

Generally, people who harbor high levels of pathogens — whether from influenza, H.I.V. or SARS — tend to have more severe symptoms and are more likely to pass on the infection.

But with the new coronavirus, people who have no symptoms may have just as much virus in their bodies as those who are seriously ill, some studies suggest.


Longer article at the link

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/health/coronavirus-transmission-dose.html?referringSource=articleShare
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Latest in science: How much virus does it take to make you sick? (Original Post) SoonerPride May 2020 OP
mask is still the answer stopdiggin May 2020 #1
Precisely. SoonerPride May 2020 #2
I was sitting in auto traffic behind a smoker today. Blue_true May 2020 #3
That is what I figure. Whatever reduces intake lowers risk. LizBeth May 2020 #5
This one is a very strange virus. LisaL May 2020 #4
I read research a few days ago hypothesizing that it was "nonzero," meaning 1 virion could do it. JudyM May 2020 #6
😳 SoonerPride May 2020 #7
K&R Hugin May 2020 #8

stopdiggin

(11,238 posts)
1. mask is still the answer
Sat May 30, 2020, 05:13 PM
May 2020

Answer: We still really don't know (precisely). But larger doses are definitely to be encountered indoors, in non-ventilated environments, and in larger droplet transmission (coughing, sneezing, speaking).

But they noted that aerosols, because they are smaller than 5 microns, would also contain much less, perhaps millions-fold less, virus than droplets of 500 microns.
“It really takes a lot of these single-digit size droplets to change the risk for you,” said Dr. Joshua Rabinowitz, a quantitative biologist at Princeton University.
Apart from avoiding crowded indoor spaces, the most effective thing people can do is wear masks, all of the experts said. Even if masks don’t fully shield you from droplets loaded with virus, they can cut down the amount you receive, and perhaps bring it below the infectious dose.
“This is not a virus for which hand washing seems like it will be enough,” Dr. Rabinowitz said. “We have to limit crowds, we have to wear masks.”

Best practice: Wear a mask when indoors, or around other people.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
3. I was sitting in auto traffic behind a smoker today.
Sat May 30, 2020, 05:27 PM
May 2020

Not moving, I smelled cigarette smoke. Looked around the guy in the car ahead was smoking. We were at least ten feet apart. Because I was in my vehicle, I didn't have on a mask.

JudyM

(29,185 posts)
6. I read research a few days ago hypothesizing that it was "nonzero," meaning 1 virion could do it.
Sat May 30, 2020, 05:50 PM
May 2020

Which explains how people can contract it from simply speaking with someone.

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