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Me.

(35,454 posts)
Sun May 31, 2020, 12:50 PM May 2020

Where To Begin The Change Regarding The Police

It occurred to me that a first step in changing the police force starts with individuals who have a history of abuse complaints that were never addressed as Chauvin did as well as Pantaleo in the Garner case. Put in a 3 strikes pattern of abuse and you're out rule. This would begin to weed out racists and brutes. A start to cleaning up police forces around the country.

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backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
4. Start with the ones with known ties to white-supremacist/RW extremist groups.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:02 PM
May 2020

Drum the worst of the worst out first, and send the message home to the rank and file that that shit will no longer be tolerated.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
5. It has to start at the highest up. They have got to enforce a strong line of unacceptable.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:02 PM
May 2020

There has to be consequences for those stepping over the line. There has to be reward and promotion for those that stand up to wrong within the department.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
8. Will never happen - Our form of gov./sociey needs thugs
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:04 PM
May 2020

and that blue line to keep the 97% down in their rabbit holes so the 3% can feed off them. Not about race, about economics.

dware

(12,356 posts)
9. And end the militarization of the police.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:04 PM
May 2020

No more wearing military style uniforms, no more vehicles from the military for use by police forces, no more asset forfeiture, among many other thing.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
10. Change who they work for.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:08 PM
May 2020

Currently they work for the banks, and all those involved in late-stage capitalism.

dalton99a

(81,433 posts)
11. Screen out racists and sociopaths, put in whistleblower protection, implement a no-hire database for
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:09 PM
May 2020

known bad cops

And repeal qualified immunity. If you act like an animal, be prepared to suffer personal consequences in criminal AND civil courts

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
13. When a City Is Sued For An Officer's Misconduct And Must Pay a Settlement
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:40 PM
May 2020

Require that the payment come from police pension funds, hold the officer or officers involved personally liable for the shortage, dismiss them from the force without recourse or appeal, and follow up verdicts in such such suits with criminal prosecution where the suit involved brutality. Make the consequences of police misconduct fall on the financial prospects of all police on the force, and make individual officers suffer great personal consequences for their misbehavior. Both will have a deterrent effect, the first general, giving officers reason to nip misbehavior among their fellows in the bud before it gets out of hand, the second particular, giving officers tempted to misuse their powers examples of disgrace and penury, even incarceration, which could be their own lot if they misbehave.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
14. Take away their weapons. Seriously.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:41 PM
May 2020

Anyone who isn't willing to work unarmed shouldn't be a cop.

Situations requiring weapons should always be a backup call handled by extremely well trained non-military specialists.




SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
15. De-power unions, lower bloated budgets, charge more, change sentencing laws.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:42 PM
May 2020

I personally believe that crimes committed by people within the justice system (cops, judges, attorneys, expert witnesses etc.) should carry much harsher punishments given the shock to the system that they cause. Police Unions often have too much say over disciplinary measures regarding officers. There will never be an impartial system as long as that is the case. The clear rate of officers nationwide (no crime over 50%) doesn't warrant massive budgets or qualified immunity that lets them skate 99% of the time. There also needs to be a real effort at demilitarization.

Initech

(100,060 posts)
16. Let's start by firing their bosses.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:44 PM
May 2020

Change usually starts at the top, and there's a need for serious reform in our nation's sheriffs. Time and time again a lot of these monsters (*COUGH* Joe Arpaio *COUGH*) get reelected because they run unopposed. It's time to start opposing them.

Mystery sage

(576 posts)
18. Where to start...hmmm? My thoughts.
Sun May 31, 2020, 02:01 PM
May 2020

Along with starting from the top down and making common sense laws we need to look heavily at police unions Especially the trump friendly ones where the leaders of those unions create the bad Apples, Give cover to bad apples with money and lawyers, And (allegedly) having judges rule in their favor though a system they have.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
19. Training, and demilitarizing
Sun May 31, 2020, 02:20 PM
May 2020

I don't think cops are trained to serve and protect. At least not people....but with all the weapons in this country they've had to escalate their tactics and responses to fit such situations, like they're at war. They are trained to do their job, but I don't know what their job is. Do they?

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