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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsConcrete being thrown at police, looting all over Santa Monica
Peaceful protesters, NOT.
Never thought I'd be rooting for the LAPD to show up and do something.
It's a mixture of organized looting and irresponsible protesters.
This is not going to end well.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)IcyPeas
(21,841 posts)IcyPeas
(21,841 posts)mostly sneaker stores. taking boxes and boxes of merchandise.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)Stomach turning to see the chaos. My local CVS is wiped out apparently.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)and the cars were late model and expensive. Seems more like organized crime. The sneakers are like cash on the streets, easy to sell.
crickets
(25,952 posts)Delphinus
(11,825 posts)Just a few hours ago things were peaceful - at least according to a tweet I read. Shit.
IcyPeas
(21,841 posts)they have been at this for hours now. There is a curfew on as of 4:00.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)Not helpful in my opinion.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)IcyPeas
(21,841 posts)chowder66
(9,054 posts)They are separate groups. The protesters are not in the area of where the looting has taken place. The looters follow them, break shit and then hide in the crowds.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)When it's done to your business, to your city, empathy goes out the door.
rockfordfile
(8,695 posts)flamingdem
(39,308 posts)onto the cops.
Was recorded by tv crews, big chunks
IcyPeas
(21,841 posts)dhill926
(16,314 posts)this is ugly. Looters actually look like normal young people...hard to understand. A breakdown of our social order...
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)JFC. I can't believe this.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)Fuck these people
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)and I only stayed for about an hour because it felt too dangerous to me--and I've been going to protests since I was a kid and my mom took me to an abortion rights march.
We're fucked as a culture.
still_one
(92,061 posts)It will be the swing states that determine the election
The polls in a week will be very telling
diva77
(7,629 posts)still_one
(92,061 posts)what is going on will determine the outcome
I do not believe the looting is helpful, and may obstruct the message of the protesters
I think in the next week the polls will tell us where things are trending
If independents in those states are the determining factor, their perception will be critical
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)I dont have the cajones to say that.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Smh.
still_one
(92,061 posts)I hope I am wrong
We will see what the polls say in about a week
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)Bannon and Miller couldn't be more thrilled.
enid602
(8,594 posts)Trump knows he can't run on the economy or his response to Covid. He'll run on 'law and order.' Remember, Chauvin, the MPLS cop, was a speaker at Trump's October, 2019 MPLS rally. He kept his knee on Floyd's neck for a full three minutes after he stopped breathing, and none of the other cops tried to get rid of onlookers or take away their cell phones. This was all scripted to cause riots. 'Law and order.'
still_one
(92,061 posts)that effectively
bdamomma
(63,799 posts)on the news these could be factions of different groups of protestors namely white extremists? or tRump's cult members, giving peaceful protestors a bad name. Plus tRump gave his cult members a dog whistle to come out against the "radical left" his words.
Looting/excessive violence will not help in this case.
still_one
(92,061 posts)I hope the other three officers are arrested
chowder66
(9,054 posts)The protesters are not in the area of the looting.
The looters are opportunists that are taking advantage of the situation.
They are hiding in with the crowds and that's why they are showing up wherever the protests are taking place.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)and there's nothing "peaceful" about the people not leaving when it's past the curfew. There's looking for confrontation.
The problem is how it looks to Joe and Jane Swingstate. Not good. Authoritarians will look good to them.
The Fuck the Police type are just not going to change anything. The looters just use the cover of the protesters to steal so the protesters didn't act smart about that. They're not looking at the big picture and ultimately no one is responsible since there's not leader/s
still_one
(92,061 posts)chowder66
(9,054 posts)So far all of my neighbors and friends I've spoken to know that the protesters aren't the ones causing the destruction.
still_one
(92,061 posts)chowder66
(9,054 posts)There will be those that are driven to outrage that won't even bother to consider the complexities of the situation and the problems they are based on.
We also have a massive homeless situation and not everyone is on drugs or mentally ill. Many are displaced due to the housing crisis or for other reasons so I'm sure there's a mix of them in there as well .....and finally there has been a ton of crime in Hollywood and surrounding areas, robberies and much worse. I think they would be among the opportunists.
still_one
(92,061 posts)chowder66
(9,054 posts)still_one
(92,061 posts)at this stage it would completely stop it, but it should go a long way to helping settle things down
chowder66
(9,054 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)criminals can't hide among them.
chowder66
(9,054 posts)They are complying.
It needs to be made clear that looters and instigators are hiding in their crowds so wherever they go so too will those that want to cause harm.
I'm not sure that will stop any protester but it definitely needs to be brought up to all of those who are in this for the right reasons.
The cops are focusing on the protests and the people in them and not enough on the business areas. Both need to be monitored and managed.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)They dressed in all black. Protesters tried stopping them...
Alex4Martinez
(2,192 posts)I don't subscribe to the theory but I don't dismiss it entirely, either.
Antifa is a RW false flag operation, coopted the term and created a problem they could claim needs fixing.
Bricks tweeted:
Link to tweet
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)They are all guilty as hell, and everyone knows it.
Raine
(30,540 posts)the message has totally been lost!
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)across from our favorite Italian deli, which better be okay!
We got sick of this since last night when the looting started. Its an embarrassment at this point.
Weve been thinking the same thing about the police stopping this now. Streams of stores being emptied and destroyed is sickening.
IcyPeas
(21,841 posts)kids taking bottles of liquor out and then looking straight at the KTLA camera. they don't care. people going back for seconds and loading into a car.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)loading their cars! Its only helping the police image at this point. Unbelievable! So many residents being affected too!
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)I think - we'll find out soon
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)getting ready to reopen after COVID closures. Sad.
IcyPeas
(21,841 posts)now set a fire in an intersection.