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Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:46 AM

Black leader 'stunned' after phone call with Facebook's Zuckerberg:

He ‘lacks the ability to understand’ race issues

Published 1 min ago on June 2, 2020
By Tom Boggioni



According to a report from Bloomberg, Black civil rights leaders who participated in a conference call with Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg walked away afterward “disappointed and stunned” at the tech billionaire’s seeming inability to understand issues that impact African-Americans.

The report notes that part of the discussion involved Zuckerberg’s decision to ignore and dismiss comments made by Donald Trump about police brutality protesters — with one Black leader calling the exec’s explanation “incomprehensible.”

According to Bloomberg’s Jeff Green, “Mark Zuckerberg hosted a nearly hour-long video call with U.S. civil rights leaders to discuss ongoing issues around his company’s policies as they relate to race, elections and other topics,” before adding it didn’t go well based on comments from Color of Change President Rashad Robinson.

In an interview, Robinson lamented, “… the problem with my ongoing conversations with Mark, is that I feel like I spent a lot of time, and my colleagues spent a lot of time, explaining to him why these things are a problem, and I think he just very much lacks the ability to understand it.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/black-leader-stunned-after-phone-call-with-facebooks-zuckerberg-he-lacks-the-ability-to-understand-race-issues/

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note: Bloomburg has a pay wall

And as for Zuckerburg...............he still has no warning label that the trumpster lies and is spreading misinformation............

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turbinetree Jun 2020 OP
Beakybird Jun 2020 #1
Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #2
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Captain Zero Jun 2020 #3
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gratuitous Jun 2020 #5
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lostnfound Jun 2020 #60
kimbutgar Jun 2020 #9
TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #20
kimbutgar Jun 2020 #49
JI7 Jun 2020 #58
DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #10
Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #24
yardwork Jun 2020 #30
marble falls Jun 2020 #40
jaxexpat Jun 2020 #46
coti Jun 2020 #51
drmeow Jun 2020 #62
Sophia_Of_PlanetX Jun 2020 #53
Baitball Blogger Jun 2020 #12
louis-t Jun 2020 #39
Baitball Blogger Jun 2020 #41
Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #14
RAB910 Jun 2020 #15
stopdiggin Jun 2020 #29
RAB910 Jun 2020 #31
Coventina Jun 2020 #16
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Coventina Jun 2020 #35
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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:48 AM

1. He can't understand the problems of hate speech and misinformation because he profits from it.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:48 AM

2. Naw like President Bunkerb*tch he is amoral and greedy.

He understands, he just doesn't care.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:55 AM

7. IKR, anyone who makes billions and keeps working is a greedy POS?

Haven't seen one that wasn't?

The 400 richest families in America: All Sadists?

This is their country too getting FUBAR deluxe treatment?






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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:12 PM

52. Or, President Fascist has something on him,

courtesy of Putin spy operations. So the orange fascist gets to keep his public platform for destroying America.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:50 AM

3. Mark and Jared both have that vacant, 'oh if I have to' look.

Phone it in.

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Response to Captain Zero (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:54 AM

6. +1

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Response to Captain Zero (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:59 AM

11. He's a psychopath imho.

Same as Jared.

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Response to Captain Zero (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:02 AM

13. this. nt

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:52 AM

4. Why? . . .

Zuckerberg and cohorts have repeatedly sided with RWers including, but not limited to shithole and family.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:53 AM

5. Maybe if he'd gone to a good school, he could have been educated

Unfortunately he only went to Harvard.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:55 AM

8. Why would a white boy growing up in

whiteboy paradise have a clue?

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Response to LunaSea (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 01:43 PM

60. Lots of them do, if exposed to good literature and compassionate parents

Lots of them don’t, also.
And then there’s stephen Miller, who seems to have had compassionate parents but still became a sociopath.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:58 AM

9. Yet he's a Jewish boy married to an Asian woman and has biracial children

Those children are not mf45’s White Aryans.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:27 AM

20. In the end, it would just mean the Zuckerbergs would be placed on the last train car to be gassed.

.

Like Stephen Miller -- No matter how 'White' he thinks he is, being Jewish will override all to Neo-Nazis.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:09 PM

49. Exactly

Useful idiot

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 01:02 PM

58. Who gives a shit. Look at what he said about holocaust deniers.

it's not about whether he himself is the bigot.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:58 AM

10. He's high-functioning, but he is on the autism scale imho.

I think he's all about money, too, but autism would explain a lot of his inability to relate or empathize.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:34 AM

24. Yes he seems to be

 

Autistic as per a Mental Health Family member,but,testing would be needed to verify.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:55 AM

30. That is a complete falsehood about autism.

My son is on the autism spectrum and is one of the most empathetic people I've ever met. Autistic people may have difficulty picking up social cues, but that doesn't mean that they aren't empathetic and caring people.

I think the word you're seeking for Zuckerberg is "sociopath."

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Response to yardwork (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:22 AM

40. Bingo.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:58 AM

46. Yup, sociopath.

It's a pretty common trait for many billionaires.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:11 PM

51. It depends on the person. It's a very broad spectrum. nt

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Response to yardwork (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 03:52 PM

62. empathy is partly learned

The fact that your son is empathic has less to do with his autism and more to do with how you raised him. Many people on the autism spectrum need to learn to put themselves in other people's shoes and, for people with asbergers at least, not bring good at reading cues and facial expressions can add a challenge to that.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:17 PM

53. As someone with ASD, I think Zuckerberg is just a terrible person.

It no doubt helped with his hyper-focus on Facebook and made him rich, but he is also lacking in morals and empathy.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:00 AM

12. "Making the world a better place."

For who, exactly?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:21 AM

39. That's 'for WHOM'.

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Response to louis-t (Reply #39)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:29 AM

41. The whole world for Whom!

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:03 AM

14. It's not too surprising.

His father was a psychiatrist and his mother was a dentist. He attended Harvard after going to a private school.

Has he EVER even been exposed to life as a poor "white" guy, let alone be exposed to a mostly-black neighborhood? Doubt it.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:11 AM

15. Anyone who saw the movie about how Zuckerburg got rich with Facebook

Knows he is not a good person

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Response to RAB910 (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:50 AM

29. and yet the movie was (supposedly) a huge success

even among younger people. REALLY had me scratching my head. Zuckerberg as a "success" story? Don't you walk away from this feeling kind of slimed and dirty?

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #29)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:56 AM

31. He was a complete jerk in that movie

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:12 AM

16. And yet, we still have Facebook apologists here on DU. n/t

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Response to Coventina (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:40 AM

27. "Well, now, it's useful for keeping in touch with family."

That's what I usually see.

I always think, "It is?! What about e-mails or phone calls or texts? Heck, even snail-mail?"

I'll keep to myself what I think is the real motivation for most people.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:02 AM

35. I think it's laziness. Facebook is "easy".

For some reason, friends and family aren't worth an effort.

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Response to Coventina (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 01:01 PM

57. Zucky is an echo of Trump

Zucky (whose name means "sugar mountain" in German) is a really amoral man, with no core principles or values. He is an echo of Trump.

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Response to Coventina (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:11 PM

64. I find it useful and I don't consider myself an apologist

A great way to keep in touch with anyone you have ever met at some time, and want to have some connection to and also their posts can be very enriching and encouraging. I have had very close friends that as time goes on, or you move away, the friendship dies. But it still nice to see their thoughts and what is happening in their lives. Even my childhood friends who I parted ways with, I really enjoy seeing their posts.

Zuckerberg enables Facebook, and controls it to some extent, but Facebook isn't a political alliance website. The opposite. You can have FB friends who are totally ignorant of politics or social issues. And then some who teach you something or are more socially conscious than you are.

DU is it's own bubble in many ways, which has its downside.

Zuckerberg will die at some point, and maybe his successor will change things.

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Response to Beringia (Reply #64)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:12 PM

65. .

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:14 AM

17. it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding

it.


zuckerberg only sees dollar signs, and he sees no profit in doing the right thing.

bigotry is controversy, controversy generates eyeballs, eyeballs generate advertising profits.

so *of course* he can't understand all this talk about limiting bigotry.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:20 AM

18. If trump's posts are allowed but not marked as BS, comment and set the record straight.

 

The "Angry," "Sad," or "Wow" thingies are important, as are liking comments you agree with.

Out vote the MFers just like I hope we do in November.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:33 AM

22. That's a good point

Whenever I encounter a false or misleading post, I'm quick to set the record straight. I don't want a rerun of 2016. I provide links whenever possible.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:40 AM

26. Links may not help.

Site like this are designed to feed the particular bias the user has. Just like youtube in that regard.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:25 AM

19. This reminds me of the Bell Hooks evisceration of the faux feminism with Sheryl Sandberg's "Lean In"

.

His sister is no better.

http://www.thefeministwire.com/2013/10/17973/


...

Although Sandberg revised her perspective on feminism, she did not turn towards primary sources (the work of feminist theorists) to broaden her understanding. In her book, she offers a simplistic description of the feminist movement based on women gaining equal rights with men. This construction of simple categories (women and men) was long ago challenged by visionary feminist thinkers, particularly individual black women/women of color. These thinkers insisted that everyone acknowledge and understand the myriad ways race, class, sexuality, and many other aspects of identity and difference made explicit that there was never and is no simple homogenous gendered identity that we could call “women” struggling to be equal with men. In fact, the reality was and is that privileged white women often experience a greater sense of solidarity with men of their same class than with poor white women or women of color.

Sandberg’s definition of feminism begins and ends with the notion that it’s all about gender equality within the existing social system. From this perspective, the structures of imperialist white supremacist capitalist patriarchy need not be challenged. And she makes it seem that privileged white men will eagerly choose to extend the benefits of corporate capitalism to white women who have the courage to ‘lean in.’ It almost seems as if Sandberg sees women’s lack of perseverance as more the problem than systemic inequality. Sandberg effectively uses her race and class power and privilege to promote a narrow definition of feminism that obscures and undermines visionary feminist concerns.

...


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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:29 AM

21. Zuckerberg is all about greed. He doesn't give a shit about America, Americans or American democracy



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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:34 AM

23. He can't understand the issues of humans, period

He's a sociopath.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:35 AM

25. There must be a way to bypass Fuckfacebook - surely a simple app

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Response to BSdetect (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:07 PM

48. I have never spent one second

on Facebook, and it doesn't require an app. Life can be lived without it.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:43 AM

28. either he needs to go from Facebook...

or Facebook needs to go. Something will always rise up to replace it....

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:57 AM

32. How could anyone think

That a billionaire businessman could have any reason to try to understand race relations? He is totally insulated from the situation by walls of money.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:58 AM

33. BOYCOTT FB now!! Lots of other platforms to keep in touch with F & F

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #33)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:35 AM

44. Deleted my account last night.

I'm done with it.

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Response to kinksfan1 (Reply #44)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:58 PM

66. I tried to delete but couldn't find what to click to do it.

Would appreciate some help on this. Yes I am only semi literate computerwise.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:01 AM

34. Thanks, Turbinetree. 'lacks ability to understand' is a damning

statement. If true, it also offers extremely valuable peep into something seriously wrong with one of the most powerful men on the planet.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:03 AM

36. When someone has no conscience, they can do anything

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:10 AM

37. Trump doesn't post the same crap on Facebook that he does on Twitter...

He tries to appeal to a different part of the Republican Party on Facebook. It's propaganda bullshit but it's not as inflammatory.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:11 AM

38. He's a sociopath like trump

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:32 AM

42. Zuckerburg is a fucking freak.

 

He really is. He gives me the creeps. Something just isn't right about that guy. He has that inhuman Jared Kushner/Stephen Miller quality about him. It's like they have no souls.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:33 AM

43. I think the solution to this is to simply say no and refuse to use Facebook.

If you have a Facebook account, delete it. There are some good tutorials on the Net which explain how to completely delete your Facebook account once and for all. If we continue to use Facebook we become unwitting enablers.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:36 AM

45. Fuck Zuckerburg and Facebook

Refuse to use. It’s like injecting strychnine into your mind.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:04 PM

47. What's interesting there

Is Zuckerberg's wife is not white.

I guess being a billionaire creates a degree of immunity but ignorance

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Response to angrychair (Reply #47)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:11 PM

50. There is a segment of white racists

that think Asians are a superior race. He probably thinks his status is raised by being married to her and having her be the mother of his children.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #50)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:39 PM

55. Never heard that before

My son's girlfriend is Asian and they have only encountered the normal type of racists.

In my experience money and power only protect you so much, at the end of the day, to a bigoted, xenophobic racist, they see non-whites as all the same.

Interesting twist though.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #50)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:29 PM

69. In the case of Zuckerberg I don't think he cares. Trump has attacked Asians recently with the

Chinese Virus crap and ordering an Asian American reporter to ask China whatever she was asking him.

He just seems like one of those types that doesn't care as long as he himself is doing ok.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #47)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 01:04 PM

59. There is nothing interesting about that. Many Jewish people don't like him either

becsuse of what he said about holocaust deniers. Him being Jewish doesn't make it ok or better.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #59)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 03:41 PM

61. Never said anything about him being Jewish

Didn't even know he was Jewish.

Confused.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:25 PM

54. Zuckerberg is extremely intelligent, more so than I realized, but he some major defects

serious defects,

so I'm not surprised that he can't understand race issues, because race issues can't not be broken down to a few lines of code.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:44 PM

56. Leave Facebook.

That is the answer. The users have that power. It may be unpalatable to many, but it is the answer. Sometimes doing the right thing is uncomfortable. (She steps away from her self-righteous pulpit.)

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:10 PM

63. People shouldn't be able to have that much power in our society

just because they're extremely rich.

The problem is more that we live in a plutocracy than that this particular plutocrat is an asshole.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #63)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 07:45 PM

68. +100000

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 07:42 PM

67. Kick

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