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Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 03:17 PM Jun 2020

We are better than they are in every way, including grammar.

Capitalizing the first word in a sentence is the minimum we must do; it is a laziness I have submitted to from time to time myself.

Let's do better!

Anything else I missed?

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We are better than they are in every way, including grammar. (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 OP
When making a post about grammar, Blecht Jun 2020 #1
Lol. cwydro Jun 2020 #16
Let's NRaleighLiberal Jun 2020 #2
The comma between your two independent clauses should be a semicolon. Towlie Jun 2020 #3
Two independent clauses may be joined ... Laelth Jun 2020 #4
Yes, but there was no coordinating conjunction. Towlie Jun 2020 #5
Precisely. Laelth Jun 2020 #8
If you made a mistake about something I knew more about than you I would not Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #10
Don't be offended, my friend. Laelth Jun 2020 #14
You chose to correct me using a derogatory term, it does NOTHING to further the discussion. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #15
We are better than they. Laelth Jun 2020 #25
We are better than THEY. Laelth Jun 2020 #6
God, you guys make me so proud. Aristus Jun 2020 #7
So let's be better than *they* in every way, including grammar. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #9
Thanks...fixed Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #11
Get a copy of "The Elements of Style" by Strunk & White. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #19
You were looking for the word "succumbed" as opposed to "submitted." Laelth Jun 2020 #12
Yes, I was, and you were looking for Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #13
That might have been more polite, yes. Laelth Jun 2020 #17
You're cracking me up here. cwydro Jun 2020 #18
"Let's eat grandma..." EarthFirst Jun 2020 #20
As my friend DFW has noted ... Laelth Jun 2020 #22
Your OP headline is a complete sentence. Laelth Jun 2020 #21
Ok. ClearSky24 Jun 2020 #23
This is your final warning Binkie The Clown Jun 2020 #24
My votes for the worst offenders DFW Jun 2020 #26

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
1. When making a post about grammar,
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jun 2020

it is best to avoid making grammar mistakes.

On edit: All better -- that was quick!

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. Two independent clauses may be joined ...
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jun 2020

... by a semicolon or by a comma followed by a coordinating conjunction.

-Laelth

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
10. If you made a mistake about something I knew more about than you I would not
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jun 2020

respond in such an unnecessary, derogatory way.

Even with your personal insult, I am grateful for the help.

I have never been good in this area, but am annoyed by the capitalizing issue.

As a liberal, if another liberal made a mistake about something I know about, in TEN MILLION years you wouldnt see me respond the way you did.

I would only respond helpfully, maybe make a little joke at your expense but in a lighthearted way....you see for me that is what makes a liberal a liberal, among other things.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
14. Don't be offended, my friend.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jun 2020

There are quite a few English teachers on DU, and many others who are gifted with languages. As a general rule, we DO NOT correct anyone’s grammar, but if you engage with us, we will come out to play.



-Laelth

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
15. You chose to correct me using a derogatory term, it does NOTHING to further the discussion.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jun 2020

I have lots of problem areas.

Cant think of a list now, but they will come up...

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
25. We are better than they.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 04:17 PM
Jun 2020

With that I agree. This thread demonstrates, to a degree, how much better we are.



-Laelth

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,679 posts)
9. So let's be better than *they* in every way, including grammar.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jun 2020

The sense of the sentence is "We are better than they (are)," so you have to use the subjective they and not the objective them.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
11. Thanks...fixed
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jun 2020

I would LOVE to have someone constructively correct my grammar, it is one of my biggest problems.

I am not in love with derogatory responses like one other on here, but I will even learn from them.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,679 posts)
19. Get a copy of "The Elements of Style" by Strunk & White.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jun 2020

It's a classic, it's short, and it explains a lot of tricky grammar stuff. It's old but it's been updated, and it's still used by newspapers and writers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Style

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
12. You were looking for the word "succumbed" as opposed to "submitted."
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jun 2020

Admittedly, this is a usage/idiom error and not strictly an error in grammar.

-Laelth

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
20. "Let's eat grandma..."
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 04:01 PM
Jun 2020

Or “Lets eat; grandma...”

This will make a big difference during your July 4th celebration...

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
22. As my friend DFW has noted ...
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 04:06 PM
Jun 2020

... good grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you’re shit.

-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
21. Your OP headline is a complete sentence.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jun 2020

It should end with a period.

That’s all I have.

Sorry if I was too harsh. I have read a lot of bad college papers in my time. As a result, my tolerance for poor grammar is low. That’s why I ignore grammar on DU. I recommend that you do the same.

-Laelth

DFW

(54,358 posts)
26. My votes for the worst offenders
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jun 2020

1. The use of an apostrophe to form a plural. No school anywhere in the English-speaking world ever taught children to do this. Except for the Official Dictionary of Republicanese, no school ever taught a child to do this, so it had to come from an overdose of right-wing blog posts. California is not a state where most voters are Democrat’s. It IS a state where most voters are Democrats. An apostrophe indicates possession or a contraction, not a plural.

2. Failing to use the accusative when warranted. If you want to say a driver is coming to get you, you say, “a driver is coming to get me.” You do NOT say, “a driver is coming to get I.” Therefore, if said driver is coming for the two of us, you say, “a driver is coming to get you and me,” and never “a driver is coming to get you and I.” It is never correct to say “to you and I” or “for you and I,” even if Jim Morrison made that very mistake in “Touch Me.”

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