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(85,917 posts)...right-wing pos dies.
texasfiddler
(1,986 posts)Charlie wasnt one of them. Maybe he got so excited from one of Trumps race speeches he croaked. The world has one less redneck.
MurrayDelph
(5,281 posts)The devil is saying "Motherfucker, I won that contest!"
Cirque du So-What
(25,812 posts)but not by me.
dware
(12,092 posts)Hated his politics, but loved his music.
Cross gently.
Maru Kitteh
(28,303 posts)It is LONG PAST TIME to stop excusing people's violent hatefulness with the framing "I didn't agree with his politics." It's a bullshit way to sanitize a hateful, racist heart into something more acceptable.
dware
(12,092 posts)I stand by my post, I hated his politics but I loved his music.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)He played with him.
I have to admit, I never really kept up with him since his moment in the sun back in the day. I had no idea what his politics were, nor do I really care.
I hate these kind of threads. People gotta chime in to denigrate a dead guy just to prove...what?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Once I find out someone is a racist - you know, that they have a worldview that sees me as less than and/or empowers those who see me that way - it kind of ruins everything else about them for me.
Demovictory9
(32,323 posts)Response to Demovictory9 (Reply #32)
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USALiberal
(10,877 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
CanonRay
(14,037 posts)jcgoldie
(11,584 posts)We're on a roll!
jcgoldie
(11,584 posts)2naSalit
(86,056 posts)I had no idea who you were referring to. I am glad he did too.
Zambero
(8,954 posts)blitzen
(4,572 posts)tenderfoot
(8,424 posts)It's what turned your family members and classmates into lunatics. It is astounding how much damage it has done to the country as a whole.
Rest in Peace Charlie Daniels.
Maru Kitteh
(28,303 posts)"I grabbed her by the hair it came off in my hand
And that beautiful girl was just a beautiful man
And old Jim just got sick right there on the floor
He dropped that dude like a shot from a gun
Smeared his lipstick made his makeup run
And me and old Jim started fighting our way to the door"
Ummm "The South's gonna do it again?" 1974
tenderfoot
(8,424 posts)don't know what happened to him in the ensuing years but he was a progressive at one point in time.
"Jimmy Carter is a good man," Daniels told Nashville's Tennessean newspaper in 2014. "He came along, a fresh-faced young man out of Georgia, and he spoke plainly, saying, 'I never will tell you a lie.' I don't think he ever did tell us a lie. I voted for Carter the second time, too. He wasn't part of the establishment. The town of Washington ate him alive."
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StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)He talked about how he was raised to be racist and then he spent his last years embracing Trumpism.
His support for Jimmy Carter was more likely based on their common Southern heritage than any lack of bigotry on his part.
tenderfoot
(8,424 posts)from NY Times responses:
Left out of this story is that Charlie Daniels was a Vietnam draft-dodger.
Later he, like Trump, came to wrap himself in the flag, of course. He did not support the Dixie Chicks. He was very pro Iraq War. As he got richer, his politics moved way to the right-wing stuff.
I liked his music of the 70's, but that's it.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)yonder
(9,631 posts)texasfiddler
(1,986 posts)tishaLA
(14,176 posts)blitzen
(4,572 posts)Well, it looked like I was gonna be stuck here as far as I could tell
I thought I might as well suck up, you know what the hell
I said you, "You know that song that Charlie Daniels did
About how you went down to Georgia and played fiddle against that kid"
He said, "Yeah it broke my heart but you know what are you gonna do
I said, "To tell you the truth
I thought your solo was the better of the two."
"Everybody is down here", I said
"Who's up in Heaven with God and the Son"
Oh, some saints and mystics and students of metaphysics one O one
People who care and share and love and try to do what's right
Beautiful old souls who read a little stories to their babies every night
What you wont find up in Heaven are
Christian Coalition Right Wing Conservatives
Country program directors and Nashville record executives
liberaltrucker
(9,129 posts)RIP
Maru Kitteh
(28,303 posts)I'm going to repeat myself here because it is worthwhile:
It is LONG PAST TIME to stop excusing people's violent hatefulness with the framing "I didn't agree with his politics." It's a bullshit way to sanitize a hateful, racist heart into something more acceptable.
KG
(28,749 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,303 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)...
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
irisblue
(32,829 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I used to think the grave-dancing here was Just for rw politicians and their families., which is ugly no matter who it was. Now du is chortling about dead musicians. Smh.
upthread, I got chastised for saying that I hated his politics, but loved his music.
Oh well, what can one do.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)My, oh my.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)It's just stating a fact about him.
And, for me, that fact tarnished and diminished him in life and is why his death doesn't make me feel the need to lionize him. That's not grave-dancing. I take no joy in his death nor do I revel in it or mock him. But I'm not going to compartmentalize him, either.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and that's where both decency and honesty lie for most. We're all people of parts, with good and bad facets in various proportions.
No excuses for those facets that weigh to the bad for him, if it's the case (I don't know).
But we all must continue to evolve from the very imperfect present that formed us. We have a way to go. And in future, I am quite certain many of us will be ashamed of what we said back in this era and just hope an old internet post isn't chosen as our epitaph, or shown to our grandchildren.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But on many things he actually said and behavior he evidenced over the years. And, as evidenced by his embrace of Trump in his later years, he didn't evolve much at all.
He also adopted and promoted the kind of "good-ole boy" persona that make many black people uneasy. Men who present the way he did terrify me and steer clear of them for my own safety and well-being. He came across as no different than the guys I see at Trump rallies, waving Confederate flags, giving the rebel yell, bragging about nooses and talking about how everyone needs to love "their" country or get out
.
Frankly, I think it's much easier for white people to parse and compartmentalize this kind of attitude as no big deal or one bad facet among many good ones than it is for people of color. For me, racism is almost always a deal-breaker.
That's not demonization. That's just a reality.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)righteous leaps to judgement without considering whether what is despised in him is also in oneself. Bias and hostility against whole groups is wrong. And stupid. Period.
I just read an OP pushing the imagined virtuous belief that white women are toxic, not just some by their behaviors, but all by virtue of their race, so you can see where I'm coming from.
Race hate is toxic. No acceptable targets and no acceptable excuses for anyone, not excepting those aiming it at themselves.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group,
the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.
a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Thank you.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)The list of qualifying assholes in that category is long?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)At least not to the people subjected to it.
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prodigitalson
(2,296 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,080 posts)Takket
(21,424 posts)Link to tweet
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smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Sorry. I am not mourning this loss.
oasis
(49,151 posts)have been put to better use.
Oh well