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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 10:33 PM Jul 2020

I think Rasmussen distorts 538's

Trump's approval #s. I have been watching these #s since day 1...no one except Rasmussen & affiliates and maybe throw in Harris, polls so high for trump. I know Silver adjusts for past accuracy, but what about frequency? Seems Rasmussen has a poll out constantly. Surely their consistent high approval affects Silver's average?

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I think Rasmussen distorts 538's (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 OP
They are weighted less into the average Loki Liesmith Jul 2020 #1
But isn't that due to o past inaccuracies? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #4
Also they don't adopt all Nate's best practices Loki Liesmith Jul 2020 #9
Always has..... paleotn Jul 2020 #2
But aren't people with land lines over 65 hating on him too? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #6
538 ranks the pollsters they use. Rasmussen gets a C+. Make7 Jul 2020 #3
Yes..but talking frequency of their polls. Even with dings Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #5
No because the weight also declines rapidly by date after a few days they grantcart Jul 2020 #7
They don't just weigh.. BGBD Jul 2020 #8
Right but nevertheless frequent Rasmussen poll #s Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #10
They do BGBD Jul 2020 #11

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
9. Also they don't adopt all Nate's best practices
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:20 AM
Jul 2020

They all figure into the pollster rating which helps determine the proper weighting.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
2. Always has.....
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 10:57 PM
Jul 2020

and I've always wondered why the keep including a group that obviously focuses on over 65's with land lines. The distortion can't be weighted out unless it's factored at 0.

Make7

(8,543 posts)
3. 538 ranks the pollsters they use. Rasmussen gets a C+.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 10:57 PM
Jul 2020

They adjust the approval numbers based on the rankings. Rasmussen's reported 45% / 53% becomes 40% / 54% after adjustment.

538's overall calculated approval is 40.2% / 55.7% currently.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
5. Yes..but talking frequency of their polls. Even with dings
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:01 PM
Jul 2020

It's consistently adding high approval #s

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
7. No because the weight also declines rapidly by date after a few days they
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:14 PM
Jul 2020

Have a lot less impact.

The real value of any of these pollsters whether PPP or Rasmussen is not the number but the trend


In other words if both Rasmussen and PPP (and the others) all show Trump consistently trending down over a 10 week period, say 7 % , then they are confirming each other even if one is at 40 and the other is 44.

If Rasmussen shows a decline over time using the same turnout projections then his results are as helpful as the others, in some ways more.

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