Even if we believe---and I do---that Biden/Harris will prevail on November 3rd,

[Atticus]

will our democracy survive until January 20th?

There is much talk---here and elsewhere---which assumes as a "given" that Trump will do or say ANYTHING to stay in power.

Do we mean it?

If we do, must we simply allow him to do whatever he chooses to do, no matter who or what he destroys? Are we truly powerless to end the ongoing criminality that this madman insists is his special right?

The remedies our system offers for aberrant psychopaths likely Trump include only impeachment or removal per the 25th Amendment. But, no one ever dreamed that a single political party which represents a minority of Americans would be as shamelessly corrupt and disloyal and these Republicans and so they never dreamed that anything more than those powers would ever be needed. They were wrong.

And so, I close by asking again: are we truly powerless to do anything more than wait for the election and hope for the best?

[WheelWalker]

1. Power to the People.

[MontanaMama]

2. It won't be pretty

but we can do this. GOTFV. Let’s go.

[drray23]

3. I am hoping that if he loses nov 3rd

Nobody will want to go to bat for him and break the law. Government employees will refuse to carry out bullshit.

[leftieNanner]

8. This evening, we were discussing this issue

Can't you imagine several R Senators who lose in November being willing to go along with the Idiot in Chief's challenge to the election results? Mitch? Tillis? Ernst?

I can.

[drray23]

19. not worried about senators.

to carry out most things he needs the collaboration of gov employees. if they dont comply or slow it then he cant get anything done.

[Horse with no Name]

4. I'm not a praying person

But I hit my knees every night praying for RBG.

[BigDemVoter]

5. There will be ugly political violence, and yes, there will be deaths.

I am betting the number of deaths won't be small either. I hate to write this, but I foresee plenty of unprovoked mass shootings, as Americans have become very, very good at such things. I wouldn't be surprised to see blue areas targeted. I am 100% serious, and I'm not saying I "think" it will happen; I am absolutely EXPECTING it.

[ego_nation]

6. The threat won't come from the government.

It will come from his supporters.

And they are unhinged.

[BigDemVoter]

7. Yep, you are right.

But I WILL venture to say that Pussy-Grabber will foment this kind of violence by his words and won't discourage it when it happens.

[Initech]

10. Yup, and Q Anon and social media are fueling the rage.

If Trump loses, things are going to get really ugly really quickly.

[MyMission]

9. New Congress/Senate gets sworn in January 3rd 2021

I'd love to see him impeached again and thrown out, and criminally charged, in record time!
But sadly, we are stuck with him for now. Our democracy, bruised and battered by fascists and evangelicals, is struggling to survive. We are not powerless, but our power rests in voting him out or impeaching him again.

Of course there's abundant rumor and speculation out there on many scenarios.
One is that he plans to flee the country, after the election before his term ends.
Another scenario I dread is his appealing to the supreme Court.

I do like the idea of a Democratic Congress and Senate impeaching him on January 4th, no witnesses, just guilty and gone. Highly unlikely, but hope springs eternal!

[Pacotoo]

11. Good Point

On Nov. 4 Trump will be a lame duck president no matter what the outcome of the election. If what we've seen over the past four years is any indication, with him knowing that he was going to face another election, can you just imagine what he and his administration would be willing to do when they no longer have to pretend to give a crap what anyone thinks?

As a lame duck, he is sure to be as destructive to this country and its institutions as possible. The only real question is whether he will have two months or four years to do so.

[Thekaspervote]

12. Biden has amassed a team of 600 attorneys to deal with these kinds of shenanigans

I think he’s got it covered.

Having said that, we need to all be mindful, but we don’t know how it will play out. Again best to be mindful without going thru so many scenarios..it’s an unknown

[Lady Freedom Returns]

13. I am scared what the orange slug will pull.

I believe he will try anything to keep power.

[Awsi Dooger]

14. I'm already prepared to remain inside for those months

Anything is possible

[lastlib]

15. I'm prepared to camp out.....

at 1600 Pennsylvania, Washington, DC--and at 12:05pm on Jan. 20, a couple million of my best friends and I will DRAG his lard ass OUT of our house! In iron.

[torius]

16. He groomed hundreds

Hi of govt. workers into his criminal culture by making them violate the Hatch Act for him. See, kids? No repercussions. Now do me another favor and I promise to pardon you all.

[LW1977]

17. I'm more worried about stupid people buying Trump violent protesters rhetoric.

[Hekate]

18. One thing is for sure: today General Millie made it pellucidly clear that the US military ....

...will have ZERO to do with either keeping him in or removing him from the White House building. They are apolitical. Trump holds a political office — look to Congress.

I hope this addresses the fantasists on both ends of the spectrum — though I realize that the nature of being a fantasist is to be resistant to facts.

I would feel even better if the head of the Secret Service would make a similar statement.

After that, we’d only have to worry about Eric Prince, aka the Pretorian Guard.