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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 02:57 AM Sep 2020

ex-GOP consultant Stevens: Trump may seize ballot boxes in Miami if he needs to

Will he win? I hope not. I wake up every day to fight against that outcome. In terms of the law and Trump delaying the election or doing other things? He is not going to ask permission. He will just do it. I have challenged Republicans with the following scenario. I have not found one who can sensibly respond.

In November there are reports of voting irregularities in Dade County, Florida. There usually are. They usually do not mean anything. Donald Trump orders Chad Wolf to send those camo-wearing paramilitaries who were deployed in D.C. and Portland into the Dade County Courthouse and they seize the boxes of votes. The courts go crazy. They order the boxes returned. But let's say some of those boxes are opened. Now there is a problem with the chain of custody.

What happens then? Are the votes in Dade County thrown out? How do you have a national election without Dade County? Who would stop this? Security guards at the Dade County courthouse aren't going to stop guys in camouflage with automatic weapons. Trump would give those orders to seize the boxes and interfere with the 2020 election. Trump is testing whether the Republicans will stand up to him. Bill Barr won't stop him. That is for sure.


https://www.salon.com/2020/08/31/longtime-gop-consultant-this-election-is-the-most-dangerous-period-since-the-civil-war/

https://twitter.com/stuartpstevens

I worked in 5 R. presidential campaigns. This is my account of how the R Party became Trump. Not a book i thought I’d write but a book I felt I had to write



Stevens is not some crazy fringe person, despite being a long-time GOP consultant. He's with The Lincoln Project. Hopefully this scenario will not occur.
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uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
11. +1, and Red Don will do what ever the hell he wants to do with nothing but slow rolling subpoenas to
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:38 PM
Sep 2020

... stop him.

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
2. 18 USC  595
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 03:31 AM
Sep 2020

Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both ...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/595

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
7. he can eff himself. if the feds try without good cause to interfere in an election,
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:51 AM
Sep 2020

the courts will promptly be involved

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
12. ... next year, I'm not impressed with the pace the court systems decide on issues. Wisconsin ...
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:39 PM
Sep 2020

... decision was disgusting to the nth degree then the USSC had no choice.

When election issues arise it should be federal law the issue has to be be decided on quickly not this 5 month shit WSC pulled.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
3. Far worse than that
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 03:35 AM
Sep 2020

He will need theft in several states. Trump has bragged that there isn't anything he won't do. He damn sure didn't lie 20,000+ times to meekly go down in anything resembling a normal election

F. Kafka

(70 posts)
6. The Salon piece...
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:17 AM
Sep 2020

...is one hell of a read. Blunt, honest, and terrifying. I might even pick up Stevens’ book. It’s insane that we’ve come to a point where longtime Republicans now have to admit, out loud, what everyone has known or suspected about the direction of the party over the last 40 years.

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
9. SCARY for sure
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:16 AM
Sep 2020

I really believe we are going to SEE UNBELIEVABLE things happen this election. Possible civil war? I don't know BUT i will be searching for an UNDERGROUND if Biden loses!!

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
10. Hopefully, they will have some sort of security with security cameras.
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:26 PM
Sep 2020

Hopefully, they will go to the wrong location to find them.

Hopefully, the count is done at polling locations, both electronic and absentee and then sent in to the central location.

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