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edhopper

(33,570 posts)
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:10 AM Sep 2020

Who will stop Trump from stealing this election?

Since Barr has removed all oversight from the DOJ and Trump's crony has made sure the USPS is FUBAR.

Don't tell me we just have to GOTV. That is fine, but not if votes are flipped and mail in votes aren't counted.

It is apparent that Trump is pulling Banana Republic fascist shit now. How do we stop it? And what do we do if we can't?

We have to start think about this now.

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Who will stop Trump from stealing this election? (Original Post) edhopper Sep 2020 OP
"How do we stop it?" Botany Sep 2020 #1
That's the only way like Trump said doc03 Sep 2020 #3
the American people. Who else is there? Its on OUR collective shoulders to take on all the risks beachbumbob Sep 2020 #2
The polls suggest to me edhopper Sep 2020 #5
I never want any polling driving my actions. We have to act as democracy hinges on what we do beachbumbob Sep 2020 #11
This like Putin's election is the process now. You vote kacekwl Sep 2020 #4
And what's your response if we win? bearsfootball516 Sep 2020 #7
This edhopper Sep 2020 #9
What you said. kacekwl Sep 2020 #23
Then Trump still attempted to cheat and the kGOP senate enabled and encouraged him via silenece uponit7771 Sep 2020 #17
I kinda of laugh at this as we vote and we can be the ones that count the votes and why I going to beachbumbob Sep 2020 #14
There's nothing that can be done at this point other than voting. bearsfootball516 Sep 2020 #6
That is very scary edhopper Sep 2020 #8
Pelosi can refuse to certify the election in the house uponit7771 Sep 2020 #13
?? Way way way more to do than just voting beachbumbob Sep 2020 #15
As traitortrump inevitably makes things worse, all around; as Covid keeps happening, empedocles Sep 2020 #10
***NANCY PELOSI CAN REFUSE TO CERTIFY THE ELECTION IN THE HOUSE*** ... and the government can uponit7771 Sep 2020 #12
I hope the Dems have the courage edhopper Sep 2020 #16
They will if we hit the streets in protest for this one thing, don't certify is cheated on election uponit7771 Sep 2020 #19
you making me laugh beachbumbob Sep 2020 #18
Back on planet Earth, Troops aren't just the military, we do not have work around for mail in ... uponit7771 Sep 2020 #20
So what is your solution? Go in the streets? That would help Trump...and I am sick of this sort of Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Sep 2020 #24
still makingme chuckle beachbumbob Sep 2020 #27
Trump didn't send private militias to Portland, the alternatives are not in ever state, time is ... uponit7771 Sep 2020 #29
Hard to steal a landslide...of course if voters become dejected and believe they can't win, Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #21
Ignoring reality is helps Trump, facing reality and hurdles we have in front of us and gaming out... uponit7771 Sep 2020 #26
Uhhh...by voting?!?! That POS can't stop anyone from voting by Mail despite threats Bengus81 Sep 2020 #25
More than 500,000 votes were discarded because of slow US mail (link). We can do drop in mailing ... uponit7771 Sep 2020 #28
I received my ballot in the mail for the Kansas Primary election at least 4-5 weeks in advance... Bengus81 Sep 2020 #31
VOLUNTEERS! BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #30
This is great edhopper Sep 2020 #32
Good idea. BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #33
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. the American people. Who else is there? Its on OUR collective shoulders to take on all the risks
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:17 AM
Sep 2020

to defeat fascism/ If we don't, the US will cease to exist and its OUR fault if it ends up that way

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
5. The polls suggest to me
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:25 AM
Sep 2020

that it is still too close.

I think a majority of Americans will reject him. But I don't see a big enough majority to feel safe.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
11. I never want any polling driving my actions. We have to act as democracy hinges on what we do
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:34 AM
Sep 2020

as INDIVIDUALS and quit the bullshit of expecting others to save our asses. If we go down fightin. at least we did fight and not go willing on the cattle cars to our demise.

Ifs fine to handwring and complain BUT for heavens sake we have to be involved. Our collective involvement has led america to this point. This story has an ending that WE can impact

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
4. This like Putin's election is the process now. You vote
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:23 AM
Sep 2020

they count. Guess what trump wins again. The supreme court and AG Barr have ruled. Here's a cup of tea for those who disagree.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
17. Then Trump still attempted to cheat and the kGOP senate enabled and encouraged him via silenece
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:39 AM
Sep 2020

... no dem victory will change that.

For those things the kGOP should be investigated ... all of them

Also, without a senate win Moscow Mitch will allow the country to go down in flames without a hint of give a damn.

The Russians are kings at strategic retreats, a senate/house/White House win is needed to make sure MAGA is dead

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
14. I kinda of laugh at this as we vote and we can be the ones that count the votes and why I going to
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:36 AM
Sep 2020

help out at polling places to assist, no matter what the risk is to my health and COVID.

The bullshit must end

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
10. As traitortrump inevitably makes things worse, all around; as Covid keeps happening,
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:31 AM
Sep 2020

school openings compound, more institutions and voters respond - some good Dem things may happen unexpectedly.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
12. ***NANCY PELOSI CAN REFUSE TO CERTIFY THE ELECTION IN THE HOUSE*** ... and the government can
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:35 AM
Sep 2020

... go without a president while the USSC Roberts Ran upholds laws and shit that Trump did before the election.

Trump will

- Send out Troops to hinder Americans from voting, there's nothing to stop Trump from doing this quickly (big kink in constitution)
- Slow down mail before the election, 500,000 votes weren't counted during primary due to late arrival
- Give polling data to The Russians so they know who to target on FaceBook, The Russians did this last time
- Stoke unrest and burn polling places down, yes ... he's an asshole.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
19. They will if we hit the streets in protest for this one thing, don't certify is cheated on election
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:40 AM
Sep 2020

... and let the country sit without a president for months.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
18. you making me laugh
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:40 AM
Sep 2020

- the military will not do any such thing
- we have work arounds FOR any mai-in voting issues
- who gives a fuck about russia and facebook? You got to be an imbecile to be influence by anything posted on social media
- we make sure polling places are free and open and we do that by being there/

If you want the enemy to win? Roll over and give up. That is THEIR HOPE. I am not going along with it

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
20. Back on planet Earth, Troops aren't just the military, we do not have work around for mail in ...
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:44 AM
Sep 2020

... ballots in all swing states that can't be altered by the federal government this second, Russia's facebook campaign helped 3rd party candidates last time so those who are informed of the efficacy of such campaigns do care.

Your last point is not based on reality in any way, I'm black ... I know damn well the polling places in all areas are not free and open when they're not existent or all the resources related to them are not working.

Do you live in the US?

Thx in advance

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
22. So what is your solution? Go in the streets? That would help Trump...and I am sick of this sort of
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:49 AM
Sep 2020

post...it only helps Trump.

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #22)

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
27. still makingme chuckle
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:55 AM
Sep 2020

- if private militias are sent in then we will see what state and local authorities will do or not
- mail in ballots do have alternatives depending on local rules, if early vote allowed in person, you do that, if ballots can b hand delivered you can do that
- 2020 is NOT 2016 and what was done in 2016 simply will not work in 2020 by russian bots and social media unless you are that ignorant to fall for the bullshit
- polling places are manned by people and volunteers so how many times have you acted as election judge or poll watcher over your years of voting?


I am an american and my family goes back almost 400 years of being in this country before US even existed. We have fought wars and died for our country, This is a war today, I am sacrificing my safety and will will work at polling stations this year as its a matter of our country surviving.

If every american thought this way, we will win

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
29. Trump didn't send private militias to Portland, the alternatives are not in ever state, time is ...
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:04 AM
Sep 2020

.. irrelevant the efficacy of the tactic is the 17 yr old Shooter for instance,

Deflection, don't have to work at polls to know as a PoC I don't have equal access to them and kGOP pols in swings states have ... ALREADY ... made that situation worse.

Come on, I'm not into arguing how wet water is ... we need to be prepared that's my bottom line.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
21. Hard to steal a landslide...of course if voters become dejected and believe they can't win,
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:46 AM
Sep 2020

by people telling them over and over ...that ' Trump is invincible" which he is not...no need to steal it...Trump can win. Most of the election shit Trump is spouting is to discourage Democratic voters...make them believe they can't win so why bother. Let's not help him.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
26. Ignoring reality is helps Trump, facing reality and hurdles we have in front of us and gaming out...
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:54 AM
Sep 2020

... what we can do to overcoming them helps America.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
25. Uhhh...by voting?!?! That POS can't stop anyone from voting by Mail despite threats
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:53 AM
Sep 2020

And..I don't give a rats ass if Trump wants to bitch about a "rigged election" until the day he dies--which I hope is VERY SOON.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
28. More than 500,000 votes were discarded because of slow US mail (link). We can do drop in mailing ...
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:59 AM
Sep 2020

... but that's not in all states, I still can't find a drop off location in my state.

We need to be prepared for a fight

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rejected-mail-ballots/2020/08/23/397fbe92-db3d-11ea-809e-b8be57ba616e_story.html

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
31. I received my ballot in the mail for the Kansas Primary election at least 4-5 weeks in advance...
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 11:52 AM
Sep 2020

Filled it out the next morning and mailed it that day at the airport mailbox. It would have been at the election board at our County Court house the next day. It would have been in their hands at least 4.5 weeks before the election.

What people need to do is STOP tossing them aside and fill them out that day or early the next and get them mailed.

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