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Ilhan Omar: Honestly, this kinda of casual Islamophobia is hurtful and dangerous. (Original Post) melman Sep 2020 OP
It seems like it is Reid who is calling out a double standard here. The criticism makes no sense. tritsofme Sep 2020 #1
Oh bullshit. nt Codeine Sep 2020 #2
I might be dense but I don't see the problem. nycbos Sep 2020 #3
Did they omit the actual words used? That's kinda shitty...Why would they do it? Budi Sep 2020 #4
She may not believe radicalized Muslims exist. BlueLucy Sep 2020 #5
Mmmm... not really Leith Sep 2020 #6
Her wording is lazy and contributes to Islamophobia. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #7
No, it appears they cut the clip to fit their narrative Budi Sep 2020 #8
That's the one I listened to. It's lazy. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #9
Another congress person passing on edited and rogue emissary Sep 2020 #10
I do wish better words were chosen, Ilhan Omar is right ck4829 Sep 2020 #11
But Joy Read canetoad Sep 2020 #13
I have religiophobia. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #12
Fascinating. Behind the Aegis Sep 2020 #14
+++++++++++ JI7 Sep 2020 #15
Sure is. cwydro Sep 2020 #17
I have no love for Reid dsc Sep 2020 #16
Responses to that tweet, explaining what Reid actually IS saying... George II Sep 2020 #18
Ilhan Omar clearly missed the point of what Joy was saying... NurseJackie Sep 2020 #19
+1 betsuni Sep 2020 #20
I saw this episode of the Reidout and I disagree Gothmog Sep 2020 #21
+1,000,000 It was a selectively edited excerpt that tried to put Reid in a bad light. It failed. George II Sep 2020 #22
The claims in the OP are bogus Gothmog Sep 2020 #23
"'I don't understand how people are rushing to judgment but not asking me,' Jamali said." betsuni Sep 2020 #24

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
3. I might be dense but I don't see the problem.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:22 PM
Sep 2020

It seems she is saying there is

1. A dubble standard
2. White people and Muslism get radicalized in a similar fashion.

Leith

(7,806 posts)
6. Mmmm... not really
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:41 PM
Sep 2020

This has already been shown on DU:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213998736

They are more similar than different.


I wonder if I can find the side-by-side pics of a young Islamic woman holding a Koran and a gun next to a young Christian woman holding a Bible and a gun. It was all the rage a couple years ago.


Edited to add: Yup. Found it.


/photo/1

rogue emissary

(3,147 posts)
10. Another congress person passing on edited and
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:21 PM
Sep 2020

misleading clips.

I don't expect Omar to have watched the the full clip.
It's just easier to go after Joy cause she the "evil establishment".

canetoad

(17,129 posts)
13. But Joy Read
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:18 AM
Sep 2020

Was speaking, using a broad analogy that much of the right wing would understand.

Joy's message was not intended to denigrate muslims, but highlight the hypocrisy of muslim haters. IMO the analogy was appropriate.

dsc

(52,146 posts)
16. I have no love for Reid
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:01 AM
Sep 2020

But she is correct here. It is clear what she meant to say an important fact did say which is that we talked about Muslims in a much different way and we've been talking about what Trump has been doing.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. Responses to that tweet, explaining what Reid actually IS saying...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:01 AM
Sep 2020

....(showing only 33 seconds doesn't do it justice):





NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. Ilhan Omar clearly missed the point of what Joy was saying...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:12 AM
Sep 2020

All I'm trying to say is that Ms. Reid deserves better... and an apology should be forthcoming. That's not too much, is it? It's a reasonable expectation for someone to apologize when they were wrong about something, right?

Gothmog

(144,832 posts)
21. I saw this episode of the Reidout and I disagree
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 11:28 PM
Sep 2020

I saw the Reidout episode in question and I strongly disagree with the claims in the OP



The clip did not include footage from just before Reid asked the question, when she described instances of Trump apparently approving of or rationalizing the alleged violent actions of his supporters, such as Kyle Rittenhouse, who is accused of murdering two people during Jacob Blake protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin last week.

The clip also left out Jamali responding to Reid's question by saying that he does not believe there is a difference between Trump's comments allegedly in support of violence committed by his followers and similar comments that may be made to extremists in the Muslim world.

When speaking to Newsweek on Tuesday for this article, Jamali suggested Reid's comments were taken out of context and may have been misinterpreted by people on both sides of the political spectrum. He pointed out that coverage of the controversy appearing in different media outlets, including The Blaze and Slate, had not sought his opinion even though he was the person Reid had posed the question to.

"I don't understand how people are rushing to judgement but not asking me," Jamali said. "We live in a country that is full of double standards, why is it not a fair question to ask why when it comes to extremism, we don't point out that there's a double standard between brown extremists and white extremists, in terms of how law enforcement approaches them?"





Gothmog

(144,832 posts)
23. The claims in the OP are bogus
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:35 AM
Sep 2020

I saw the entire segment and the charges made do NOT reflect the segment

betsuni

(25,347 posts)
24. "'I don't understand how people are rushing to judgment but not asking me,' Jamali said."
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:39 AM
Sep 2020

I guess it's too much to ask that people not rush to judgment based on things taken out of context and misinterpreted. I find it terribly embarrassing to be wrong so always check first.

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