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Nancy Pelosi responds to stupid hair salon Crap. (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2020 OP
this is a joke..right? agingdem Sep 2020 #1
Not in the least tiny bit Hekate Sep 2020 #25
so this is real... agingdem Sep 2020 #35
In San Francisco? Not going to go well. catrose Sep 2020 #71
Shouldn't have to say anything captain queeg Sep 2020 #2
If she leaves at this, I'm good. Nevilledog Sep 2020 #3
What is this about and who is the tweeter? Srkdqltr Sep 2020 #4
He's a reporter. Nevilledog Sep 2020 #8
Conservative assholes aren't the only ones making an almighty stink about it Hekate Sep 2020 #24
*sigh* Nevilledog Sep 2020 #32
Indeed Hekate Sep 2020 #39
I share your feelings. Nevilledog Sep 2020 #44
I can tell you why, without even getting inside your head. Caliman73 Sep 2020 #52
Frustrating as hell. LanternWaste Sep 2020 #51
Salon owner LIED. Cha Sep 2020 #45
I'm shocked! Nevilledog Sep 2020 #56
The whole thing is bizarre.. imagine waking up.. thinking.. Cha Sep 2020 #60
These aren't the smartest people. They prove that every fucking day. Nevilledog Sep 2020 #63
lol true. And, Erica with her "3 successful hair salons around Cha Sep 2020 #65
If not a joke, she should name the salon Seiad Sep 2020 #5
Yep! bamagal62 Sep 2020 #7
Yes. Probably end of their business cally Sep 2020 #64
It's called eSalon SoCalNative Sep 2020 #76
Would love to know the name of the salon. bamagal62 Sep 2020 #6
The CNN article named the owner.. luvs2sing Sep 2020 #9
Shocking! Cha Sep 2020 #46
Right? luvs2sing Sep 2020 #69
So, on 8/31, at least one county (if not more) musette_sf Sep 2020 #10
I think San Francisco has less restrictions cally Sep 2020 #66
San Mateo County salon regulations, as of 8/31, are actually less restrictive musette_sf Sep 2020 #74
"eSalon on Union Street" dalton99a Sep 2020 #11
Sounds like a classic setup. The stylist calls to offer an appointment. Arkansas Granny Sep 2020 #15
Me too, a smelly rat. This incidence shows all the more need for national policy, not state or iluvtennis Sep 2020 #18
From what I understood from an earlier article, the stylist rents a chair from the owner. Blue_true Sep 2020 #27
Hope Rebl2 Sep 2020 #20
Well that sounds like bullshit to me... Volaris Sep 2020 #48
I've had one haircut since this started, and I wore a mask. MelissaB Sep 2020 #12
That may not be the actual point TimeToGo Sep 2020 #17
I agree. She should have had her mask up. Blue_true Sep 2020 #28
It's actually illegal until October in SF for indoor salons to operate Polybius Sep 2020 #78
Who said she's perfect?This is ratfucking in the best Nixon style. Also, the way I read the original Hekate Sep 2020 #30
The picture apparently shows the mask pulled down around her neck. Arkansas Granny Sep 2020 #38
Maybe she had a facial treatment? n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2020 #54
Right after her hair washing. Cetacea Sep 2020 #70
Who is arguing perfection on her part or her behalf? LanternWaste Sep 2020 #55
No. That was the point. MelissaB Sep 2020 #67
Fuck the press for making this an issue SoonerPride Sep 2020 #13
+1 Nevilledog Sep 2020 #14
We have to own up to this. Blue_true Sep 2020 #33
Nope. It's time to boycott that pos salon. rockfordfile Sep 2020 #40
I agree on the boycott. The owner clearly had a political agenda. Blue_true Sep 2020 #49
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #79
I'm not getting a haircut until there is a vaccine. Klaralven Sep 2020 #16
My niece runs a salon in Florida. Blue_true Sep 2020 #31
But you are likely not doing media interviews every day. unitedwethrive Sep 2020 #62
You can leave a review here on yelp! chomper Sep 2020 #19
Here's one. Apparently her mask was down from the washing Cetacea Sep 2020 #68
Really. It's pretty hard to get your hair done while fully masked all the time. catrose Sep 2020 #72
Tell it like it is, Nancy. Don't let the bastards do this to you. Hekate Sep 2020 #21
Totally relate to Madam Speaker. SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2020 #22
Next up - Nancy Pelosi parking in a loading zone! DBoon Sep 2020 #23
That woman is brilliant!! Sogo Sep 2020 #26
Breaking news! Pelosi only washed hands for 19 seconds! Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #29
Only sang "Happy Birthday" song through ONCE!!! deurbano Sep 2020 #75
We have some really serious problems to face Jarqui Sep 2020 #34
Our salons are open MontanaMama Sep 2020 #36
That's gonna cost them. JohnnyRingo Sep 2020 #37
Gosh, I hope so. What a violation. catrose Sep 2020 #73
Instructions on coming for Nancy: Don't Hekate Sep 2020 #41
Oh myyyyyyy. erica's voicemail is full. . .ah well. . .later. niyad Sep 2020 #42
*snicker* Nevilledog Sep 2020 #58
Did she also get her nails done? npk Sep 2020 #43
So, the salon/hairdresser committed fraud? keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #47
If I were Nancy I would never go there again and urge my friends to boycott. kimbutgar Sep 2020 #50
Always remember Bill Clinton's "Bad Hair Day" on LAX runway that was proven fake bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #53
Remember, rownesheck Sep 2020 #57
Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #59
big too do about nothing marieo1 Sep 2020 #61
I encourage you all ClimateHawk Sep 2020 #77
Stylist who blew out Pelosi's hair is backing her up. greyl Sep 2020 #80

agingdem

(7,843 posts)
35. so this is real...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:16 PM
Sep 2020

I wonder if the salon owner understands the concept of blowback...if not, she will and soon...as for the SF Chronicle...must have been a slow news day..nothing much going on in this upside down world..I can see why Nancy gets a haircut takes priority over a depraved sociopath "stroking out" over soup bombs

Nevilledog

(51,069 posts)
8. He's a reporter.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:34 PM
Sep 2020

Salon owner contacted Fox and basically implied that Nancy made her do her hair in violation of mask mandates. It's totally stupid, but conservative assholes were trying to make it a big deal.

Hekate

(90,641 posts)
39. Indeed
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:23 PM
Sep 2020

I was so upset at that thread I can’t even tell you. I don’t know why the disgust hit me so hard, but I felt my BP going up like a rocket.

How many DUers have just been waiting for an excuse? Especially the one who actually said Nancy leaving off a mask in a private setting was “just like Trump” eschewing masks in public?

Ratfuckery, and some people just can’t hold themselves back to help bring down a fellow Dem.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
52. I can tell you why, without even getting inside your head.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:48 PM
Sep 2020

This story is completely insignificant given what we face in this election, yet a guy known for throwing dirt at Democratic figures makes it a story so that right wingers can claim a false piety while they gather in mass without masks. Then to top it off, We as Democrats have to say how "bad" this looks and "she shouldn't have done it" and all that crap when Pelosi was just trusting the word of a business that she has a personal relationship with, that used that trust to score stupid points, that some of us here bought into.

We may have differences and we are a big tent so there will always be that tension about what we should do and avoid. This however was stupid and petty and shouldn't take up any time in our day. Yet here we are....

That is why the disgust hit you hard.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
51. Frustrating as hell.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:47 PM
Sep 2020

I guess I should avoid labeling a sampling of those posts as 'chickenshit'... 'cause that would be mean.

So I won't label them as 'chickenshit.'

Nope... not gonna refer to them as 'chickenshit' in any meaningful way.

Cha

(297,127 posts)
60. The whole thing is bizarre.. imagine waking up.. thinking..
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:56 PM
Sep 2020

today is the day I'm going to mess with Nancy Pelosi & call fox news.. I guess she thought it would help her business in some way.

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
9. The CNN article named the owner..
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:35 PM
Sep 2020

as Erica Kious. Her FB page says she is owner of E Salon. She also likes a lot of republicans.

musette_sf

(10,200 posts)
10. So, on 8/31, at least one county (if not more)
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:35 PM
Sep 2020

in the Bay Area opened FULL salon access, which includes coloring, shampooing, and blow-drying. I live in San Mateo County, and the salon I go to opened on Monday 8/31, under strict social distancing and sanitization protocols. I received a "come back to the salon on 8/31" invitation on Saturday 8/29. The idea that others in nearby counties might think salons would be open there, too, is not an unrealistic idea. It's possible that the person who told Rep Pelosi that she could come into the salon may have thought that the San Mateo salon protocol as of 8/31 applied in SF County as well.

This is really a mountain out of a f'n molehill. Not to mention that Skanky Vanky, Melanoma, and Eva "Kimberly" Peron all seem to have been getting their hair and injections done on a regular basis throughout the last 6 months. So I call bullshit on haranguing Rep Pelosi on this.



cally

(21,593 posts)
66. I think San Francisco has less restrictions
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:05 PM
Sep 2020

Than most of Bay Area Counties. Their COVID rates are lower and their a tier down under new state guidelines than other counties. I don’t know San Mateo rates

musette_sf

(10,200 posts)
74. San Mateo County salon regulations, as of 8/31, are actually less restrictive
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:25 PM
Sep 2020

than those in San Francisco County. Most Bay Area counties are allowing indoor salon services as of Monday 8/31. SF County still requires outdoor salon services, as do only two other counties in the area: Alameda and Napa.

dalton99a

(81,443 posts)
11. "eSalon on Union Street"
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:36 PM
Sep 2020
https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-nancy-pelosi-haircut-hair-salon-20200902-dcou2dvg2fbjngbm7pibnzfohi-story.html

Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco salon visit caught on camera, raises ire of business owner: ‘No one else can go in, and I can’t work’
BY EMILY DERUY, THE MERCURY NEWS
ASSOCIATED PRESS | SEP 02, 2020 AT 11:24 AM

California guidelines on salons vary by county. While some San Francisco Bay Area counties have moved to allow salons to restart indoor operations, San Francisco is not one of them. And San Francisco did not permit even outdoor salon services until Tuesday.

According to Fox News, the owner of eSalon on Union Street said a stylist who rents space there contacted her Sunday to say Pelosi would be coming in the following day.

“It was a slap in the face that she went in, you know, that she feels that she can just go and get her stuff done while no one else can go in, and I can’t work,” salon owner Erica Kious told Fox News.

The salon did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Mercury News.

Arkansas Granny

(31,514 posts)
15. Sounds like a classic setup. The stylist calls to offer an appointment.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:15 PM
Sep 2020

Then she informs the owner about the appointment a day ahead of time. Instead of cancelling the appointment, they film it and leak it to the press.

I smell a rat.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
27. From what I understood from an earlier article, the stylist rents a chair from the owner.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:01 PM
Sep 2020

so if the stylist was to get to that chair, she would have to notify the owner. If the owner asks who is the customer, the stylist would have to tell her that.

The owner is the problem. People should stop going there. Stylists will find other shops to work in.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
48. Well that sounds like bullshit to me...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:40 PM
Sep 2020

If I rent space somewhere to work, and that place is closed for business, how the hell am I supposed to get in there in the first place?

Unless this space-renter had her own building key (for some silly reason), it makes no sense that the business owner didnt APPROVE THIS the day before when she got the call...and approved it AS A SETUP.

This is not different than a stripper that rents a stage and the whole club is CLOSED. No way in HELL would the owner let that person work a private client/event there without explicit permission beforehand (and then pitch a fit about somebody else being able to work IN MY BUSINESS and the rest of us, cant?).

Nope not buying it. This is a roger stone level ratfucking and it should be called that at every opportunity.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
12. I've had one haircut since this started, and I wore a mask.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:04 PM
Sep 2020

I'm not going to make excuses for her not wearing one. She screwed up. She isn't perfect.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. I agree. She should have had her mask up.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:03 PM
Sep 2020

I have a niece who owns a salon. No customer enters without a mask on.

Polybius

(15,381 posts)
78. It's actually illegal until October in SF for indoor salons to operate
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 10:38 PM
Sep 2020

Pelosi said they told her it was ok, but yeah she should have known the local laws.

Hekate

(90,641 posts)
30. Who said she's perfect?This is ratfucking in the best Nixon style. Also, the way I read the original
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:05 PM
Sep 2020

...article, Nancy wore a mask to her appointment as per protocol.

She was set up.

Arkansas Granny

(31,514 posts)
38. The picture apparently shows the mask pulled down around her neck.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:23 PM
Sep 2020

I don't know why she pulled it down, but she did have a mask.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
55. Who is arguing perfection on her part or her behalf?
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:49 PM
Sep 2020

Anyone?

Anyone at all?

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
13. Fuck the press for making this an issue
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:12 PM
Sep 2020

187,000 Americans are dead and this is what they want to report on?

They can fuck right off

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. We have to own up to this.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:09 PM
Sep 2020

Speaker Pelosi is a role model and she let her guard down with people that she trusted. At minimum, she should have had her mask in place properly.

I have a niece that owns a salon, no one enters her place with no mask on or the mask not in place properly over their nose and mouth.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
49. I agree on the boycott. The owner clearly had a political agenda.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:44 PM
Sep 2020

She should pay for that.

My niece owns a very busy African American hair and nail salon, so styling techniques are different. But if Speaker Pelosi had shown up at her salon, she would not have been let in without a mask on, and my niece would not have gone to the press.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
79. +1000
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 10:59 PM
Sep 2020

Hear, hear! We are up against the most corrupt, criminal, evil, hateful administration in the history of this nation's history and THIS is what they are focusing on?

What absolute BULLSHIT! This is a non-story. It is so insignificant in the entire scheme of things. Compared to the egregious criminal behavior of the Trump administration, it is absolutely laughable.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. My niece runs a salon in Florida.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:06 PM
Sep 2020

She has been doing hair since Florida reopened. No one is allowed in without a mask over their nose and mouth and all stylists must wear their masks properly and change out them. She hasn’t had any issues.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
62. But you are likely not doing media interviews every day.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:01 PM
Sep 2020

I'm guessing that the repub congress people and senators have private stylists who come to them.

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
68. Here's one. Apparently her mask was down from the washing
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:13 PM
Sep 2020

"CREEPY, VINDICTIVE and PETTY. This describes the owner, ERICA KIOUS. How lame and desperate do you have to be to invite a client in, and violate their privacy by selling video footage of them (wet hair and all) to a cheap cable news network? All for political reasons. Really?? All clients should be respected, regardless if you disagree with their politics or not. Completely unprofessional! Btw, Mrs. Pelosi DID have a mask around her neck, that she briefly pulled down after hair washing. But you chose to falsely "spin" it your way to satisfy your buddies over at Fox and Friends. Just shows your true character. If you care about your privacy, DO NOT go to this place."

catrose

(5,065 posts)
72. Really. It's pretty hard to get your hair done while fully masked all the time.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:20 PM
Sep 2020

I hope the stylists were at least. And I guess I'll keep my half-gray hair until...who knows when?

Hekate

(90,641 posts)
21. Tell it like it is, Nancy. Don't let the bastards do this to you.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:57 PM
Sep 2020

By the way, I hope the name of the salon and the owner get spread far and wide, so San Franciscans know which business to avoid.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
22. Totally relate to Madam Speaker.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:57 PM
Sep 2020

I went to my salon for the first time in 6 months 2 weeks ago. Turns out they weren't outside as they should be. I should've walked out. I was in a separate room. And clearly they were being cautious. But I also noticed the floors haven't been really well cleaned in years.

I now believe I need to find a new salon. Frustrating as I've followed my hair stylist to 3 different salons.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
29. Breaking news! Pelosi only washed hands for 19 seconds!
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:05 PM
Sep 2020

That's a joke, but it's the kind of nonsense offered by right-wing media.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
75. Only sang "Happy Birthday" song through ONCE!!!
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 08:07 PM
Sep 2020

Meanwhile, "My Kevin" McCarthy actually emailed the salon entrapment video to the media, even though he, HIMSELF, attended the final day of the Hatch Act Violation Convention with 1500 mostly unmasked attendees (including My Kev) practicing no social distancing... and even though he has ALSO told people to wear masks:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-congress-masks/wear-a-mask-republicans-split-with-trump-as-virus-cases-surge-idUSKBN24027P

<<The top Republican in the House of Representatives, Kevin McCarthy, said Americans should follow the recommendations of health officials to wear masks and socially distance themselves to help slow the spread of infection.

“They should wear a mask,” McCarthy told CNBC on Monday after his home state of California began to roll back efforts to reopen the economy.>>

Unlike My Kev, Speaker Pelosi had the mask around her neck as she moved with wet hair from one room to the other, indicating the lack of a mask was a temporary situation. Not to mention, this took place in a salon with no other customers, and the only other people (the stylist and her aide, I assume) were both wearing masks. It's shocking the owner would knowingly give permission for the stylist to provide hair care to the Speaker, and then release security video from that appointment when the Speaker was in an unguarded, vulnerable situation (I've never seen her in public with wet hair) and expected privacy. But... whatever.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
34. We have some really serious problems to face
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:13 PM
Sep 2020
THIS is not one of them

It's just a distraction to take our eyes off the things that really matter.

Nothing to see here ...

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
36. Our salons are open
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:18 PM
Sep 2020

and customers have to wear a mask when walking into the salon. They can remove the mask during the service but just wear it when they walk from the chair to the wash sink or the bathroom or out the door when they leave. Every city has different rules but wearing a mask during the actual haircut might not be required.

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
37. That's gonna cost them.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:20 PM
Sep 2020

Especially in liberal Frisco.

Might as well put up a sign: "50% off orange tanning and duck's ass haircuts".

kimbutgar

(21,127 posts)
50. If I were Nancy I would never go there again and urge my friends to boycott.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:45 PM
Sep 2020

When it reopens that salon is going to get some good protesters and bad reviews on Yelp.

bucolic_frolic

(43,124 posts)
53. Always remember Bill Clinton's "Bad Hair Day" on LAX runway that was proven fake
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:48 PM
Sep 2020

yet CNBC and all of cable talked about it 72 hours straight

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
57. Remember,
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:52 PM
Sep 2020

someone set up the mayor of Beaumont, TX in the same way just a few months ago. But that was a nail salon.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
61. big too do about nothing
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:59 PM
Sep 2020

This is so stupid...........haven't we got more important things to worry about than where someone gets their hair done. Making a big tudo out of nothing. Nancy Pelosi has devoted her life to this country and deserves better.

ClimateHawk

(211 posts)
77. I encourage you all
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 10:31 PM
Sep 2020

to look the place up on google and leave a 1-star review. There are already several reviews coming to the salon's defense and attacking Pelosi.

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