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Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:18 PM Sep 2020

Hawkfish? Has some info we all need...VERY important. RED MIRAGE

https://www.fastcompany.com/90546007/what-is-a-red-mirage-michael-bloombergs-hawkfish-warns-of-a-nightmarish-election-crisis



This has to be here already? It is I see.

But it needs more exposure. This seems VERY Plausible to me


We now have a name for our worst-case election scenario. It’s called a “red mirage.”

The term describes an election outcome in which early results appear to favor President Trump, but then tip toward a decisive victory for Joe Biden as more mail-in ballots are counted. It was coined by Josh Mendelsohn, CEO of Hawkfish—the political data firm founded by Michael Bloomberg—who warns in a new interview with Axios on HBO that this nightmarish scenario is not only possible but likely according to some of the firm’s modeling.

In one version, Trump could see a projected 408 electoral votes on election night, compared to 130 for Biden, but that’s with only 15% of the mail-in votes being counted, Axios reports. The tide could then turn to favor Biden as we count more votes—polling data shows Democrats are more likely to vote by mail.


So every single one of us here KNOWS for a FACT that if something like this happened the traitor and team (all of the GOP) would claim victory and cast doubt on ALL outstanding ballots, right?


So the smart thing is to prepare for this, right? How exactly, I dont know, how about we discuss ways. First obvious thing is tell EVERYBODY YOU KNOW this is likely to happen so we dont over or under react to it.

I welcome any ideas.
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Hawkfish? Has some info we all need...VERY important. RED MIRAGE (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Sep 2020 OP
On election night, I'm trusting someone many hate to keep us informed -- Steve Kornacki. He'll Hoyt Sep 2020 #1
And 60% of the country wont understand or believe it, which is what they are relying on. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2020 #2
I'm voting early, in person SheltieLover Sep 2020 #3
I already ordered a mail in ballot I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2020 #14
Good idea! SheltieLover Sep 2020 #16
If we win Florida the red mirage collapses. radius777 Sep 2020 #4
Here's what one expert had to say Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #5
+1. Hoyt Sep 2020 #7
Fingers crossed, just want to be prepared for anything. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2020 #8
I recall florida counts all its votes quite rapidly, mail and otherwise nt msongs Sep 2020 #6
This depends on how close the election is. judeling Sep 2020 #9
In Illinois, Mail-In Ballots... ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #10
Biden should not concede until all votes are counted. That said, everyone vote early if you can. onetexan Sep 2020 #11
Vote early. Hassler Sep 2020 #12
First time in my voting history I will Not be voting in the General Election MagickMuffin Sep 2020 #13
Joe needs to not concede I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2020 #15
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. On election night, I'm trusting someone many hate to keep us informed -- Steve Kornacki. He'll
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:23 PM
Sep 2020

He'll keep us informed about what early voting means in comparison to expected final tally.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
2. And 60% of the country wont understand or believe it, which is what they are relying on.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:25 PM
Sep 2020

Dont you know these late ballots are all fakes!

etc

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
3. I'm voting early, in person
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:28 PM
Sep 2020

For this very reason.

I will not trust my precious vote for Joe, Kamala & all Dems to DeJoy's dystopian nightmare.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
4. If we win Florida the red mirage collapses.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:50 PM
Sep 2020

Saw Plouffe on Lawrence last night and he said that. Florida results likely will be fully on election night.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
8. Fingers crossed, just want to be prepared for anything.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:09 PM
Sep 2020

Calling ANYTHING that prepares us for what traitors will do is not doomsday porn, however.

judeling

(1,086 posts)
9. This depends on how close the election is.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:27 PM
Sep 2020

If Florida is close enough that there is a doubt then it could turn into the Mirage. Again if Trump wins Florida then a Mirage is possible.

I don't think it will play out that way but with the extended post election counting that have been mandated it could play out.

However I am pretty sure that the result will be clear by Weds evening news.

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
10. In Illinois, Mail-In Ballots...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:31 PM
Sep 2020

...can be tabulated as they are received. They can't be included into the count until the actual day of election.
Section 19-8 b
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=001000050K19-8
But, not sure how much this matters given it's Illinois.
HRC beat PINO by 17.7% in 2016. So, this is a state nobody is going to watch on Nov 3.

MagickMuffin

(15,924 posts)
13. First time in my voting history I will Not be voting in the General Election
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:27 PM
Sep 2020

It will be my first time voting early now that Texas has paper ballots.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
15. Joe needs to not concede
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:35 PM
Sep 2020

Until all the ballots are counted. He needs to ignore the red mirage.

Who cares how long it takes, to find the final tally.

Joe cannot concede until the ballots are counted and all the fraudulent right wing bullshit is exposed or fails.

Sit tight Joe and ignore the mirage. It's an illusion.

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