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orleans

(34,039 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 02:24 AM Sep 2020

trump's CDC october surprise




donald trump will have the cdc give america an october surprise (an unproven, not fully tested vaccine.)
"CDC documents say states should prepare to distribute Covid-19 vaccines as soon as late October" -cnn
(pic) great! just in time for the election!
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trump's CDC october surprise (Original Post) orleans Sep 2020 OP
quack! quack! 🦆 eom sprinkleeninow Sep 2020 #1
And if they do it late enough in October, PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #2
As ive posted elsewhere, Biden should dare the Con to be the first to take the vaccine onetexan Sep 2020 #22
Even if there were a totally tested and reliable vaccine by late Oct, idiot orange king has so Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #3
Aren't most anti-vaxxers Trump voters? I'm not sure how this helps him. airmid Sep 2020 #4
Fox News used to defend anti Vax people Watchfoxheadexplodes Sep 2020 #7
Figures... airmid Sep 2020 #9
Just turned on the TV and ABC News has Trumpco claiming Nov 1... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2020 #5
He'll hire whoever will be willing to push this through captain queeg Sep 2020 #6
Will Dumbo be the first to try it out? I doubt it secondwind Sep 2020 #8
the ironry has yet to be relized but beachbumbob Sep 2020 #10
The companies making the prospective vaccines DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #11
So much this. Phoenix61 Sep 2020 #15
Why not? They have done it before. whopis01 Sep 2020 #16
That case is still in court and the claims have Phoenix61 Sep 2020 #17
That is correct - but that changes little whopis01 Sep 2020 #18
I think it more likely if fewer people are likely Phoenix61 Sep 2020 #19
I agree with that. whopis01 Sep 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author JustGene Sep 2020 #12
Not going to be much of a surprise Walleye Sep 2020 #13
Oh, goody. Another stunt. GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #14
Isn't the point of a surprise - checks notes - to be, you know, an actual surprise? BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #21

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,808 posts)
2. And if they do it late enough in October,
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 03:12 AM
Sep 2020

whatever failures or bad outcomes of the vaccine won't have shown up by November 3, so people will be oblivious.

I am hoping that there are enough of us who remember the swine flu vaccine debacle in 1976 to make a difference. Not to mention all of those who will be rightfully cautious about a sudden miracle vaccine.

onetexan

(13,018 posts)
22. As ive posted elsewhere, Biden should dare the Con to be the first to take the vaccine
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:55 PM
Sep 2020

& lets see if he wants to take the quackery he's peddling.

Thekaspervote

(32,682 posts)
3. Even if there were a totally tested and reliable vaccine by late Oct, idiot orange king has so
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 03:32 AM
Sep 2020

Decimated the agencies that would be responsible for managing, distribution and giving of the vaccine it wouldn’t be possible!

Hey dotard..how’s that workin’ out for ya?? Give me the gun, I’ll shoot my other foot now

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
7. Fox News used to defend anti Vax people
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:17 AM
Sep 2020

Watch the turn today

"every one get president trumps vaccine"

Already heard it blurbed as "presidents vaccine" twice.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,075 posts)
5. Just turned on the TV and ABC News has Trumpco claiming Nov 1...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 04:48 AM
Sep 2020

... a vaccine will be available, but Dr Fauci says, "by the end of the calendar year there may be a vaccine".

captain queeg

(10,072 posts)
6. He'll hire whoever will be willing to push this through
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:38 AM
Sep 2020

Though I’m not so sure that’s going to work. As many have stated lots of his fan club are anti vaxers and most reasonable people will be too suspicious to try it till it’s been in use for months. I certainly would take the initial batch.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
10. the ironry has yet to be relized but
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:11 AM
Sep 2020

Trump WILL rush a COVID vaccine to market, a significant portion of HIS voting base are also anti-vaxer's and don't look at COVID in the same light as the rest of america. The rest of america will have ZERO trust in a trump era vaccinne.

So who the heck is going to take it? That will be a huge slap in the face for trump and GOP days before the election. Millions of doses going to waste.

DeminPennswoods

(15,264 posts)
11. The companies making the prospective vaccines
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:18 AM
Sep 2020

are the ones who have to submit the proper paperwork to get early approval. The CDC/FDA cannot just approve a vaccine on their own. You can bet liability issues will be front and center before ANY private sector company asks for early approval.

But there are a lot of vaccines in the works with a few more moving into phase 3 trials right now. I think it's entirely possible there will be at least one vaccine approved by the end of the year, but it won't be by election day.

whopis01

(3,487 posts)
16. Why not? They have done it before.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:51 AM
Sep 2020

Merck & Co. falsified vaccine efficacy results in order to pass the FDA's threshold for approval.

https://www.biospace.com/article/merck-and-co-s-fake-mmr-trial-data-buried-even-as-measles-outbreak-shows-vaccine-surge-/

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/Advocate-Provided-Information-Merck-Fraud-Charges-Federal-Court.pdf


Granted, it is not exactly a "bogus" vaccine. It does work. However, it does not work to the extent (knowingly falsely) claimed by the company.

whopis01

(3,487 posts)
18. That is correct - but that changes little
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 12:27 PM
Sep 2020

Pharmaceutical companies have lied and falsified data on numerous occasions.

I am sure there are many more occasions than have ever made it through the courts.

I just simple do not agree with your assessment that "No company is going to fudge data to get a bogus vaccine to market". I believe there are companies that have to potential to do exactly that.

Phoenix61

(16,991 posts)
19. I think it more likely if fewer people are likely
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 12:45 PM
Sep 2020

to be exposed to the pathogen. This has so many eyes on it it would be a huge risk. Any other time, I think sadly, you are correct.

whopis01

(3,487 posts)
20. I agree with that.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:32 PM
Sep 2020

I don't think it is going to happen right now. Especially with so many eyes on it, like you said. But I am jaded anway.

Response to orleans (Original post)

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
14. Oh, goody. Another stunt.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:55 AM
Sep 2020

Thanks for the warning, assholes. Most of us see right through this bullshit. No fucking way am I getting it. I will not take any vaccine coming from this so-called administration, and I know that I am FAR from alone here.

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