So, if a vaccine is the "October surprise", would you take it if available to you?

[Baclava]

Companies talking about late Oct, maybe without full testing, CDC mentioning it too. Would 50% effective be good enough?

[MontanaMama]

1. No.

I can stop the virus by wearing a mask and staying the hell away from people. I’ll wait until we have Joe in the WH.

[Javaman]

2. there is only one way to say fuck no and that's

FUCK NO.

I've read a bit about this "vaccine" it still hasn't gone through the last clinical trial or has been peer reviewed.

it could be fucking saline for all we know

[geomon666]

3. No

Not until I see a peer review.

[Liberal In Texas]

4. Not until it's been beta tested by the people who will take it.

I can wait a few months, or longer, to make sure that the cure isn't worse than the disease it's designed to prevent.

[RKP5637]

6. Same here!!!!! n/t

[RKP5637]

5. Absolutely not! And especially not if tRump says it's great, magnificent, the best ever.

And I did it. ME ME ME ME

[MineralMan]

7. That will depend.

I'll be taking the flu vaccine sometime this month. I won't know how effective it is until the end of flu season, really. I will take it, though, even though it may not prove to be particularly effective against some strains. It will reduce my odds of getting the flu.

When a COVID-19 vaccine is available, I will research whatever data are available about the trials that vaccine has undergone. If it has proven to be save in Stage 3 trials, and it is the only one that is available to me, I will get the vaccine. If more than one is available, I will continue to do more research on whatever data are available.

Frankly, any vaccine that does not have a history of bad side effects and appears to be effective will be one I will take. As with the flu vaccine, it will improve my chances of avoiding the virus. Given current knowledge of vaccines, it is unlikely that the one that gets released will be any more dangerous to me than a typical flu vaccine.

It's all about the odds.

[Baclava]

30. Flu vaccines are only proven about 50% effective, that why I mentioned that, maybe high risk workers

I have never gotten a flu shot for 15 years, and never once caught the flu! LOL

So I would be !eaning towards a "no" too, I'll let a few million go before me, just to feel safer

[LisaL]

32. I don't get flu vaccine either.

I usually get the flu, though, in this cold climate. I didn't get the flu in many years when I lived in warmer climate. This year I didn't get the flu in the cold climate for whatever reason, which kind of surprises me.

[Mike 03]

8. Trump couldn't even get bottled water right.

If this vaccine "works", it would be the first success in Trump's life, other than obtaining loans through fraud and successfully laundering Russian money. So I won't be betting my life on the miracle of a sudden Trump success, not with the CDC and FDA in such a compromised state.

If we have a choice, say, that includes the WHO's vaccine, or a vaccine from Europe, Canada or Israel, I might opt for one of those.

[jrthin]

9. Hell no. nt

[BlueIdaho]

10. No until it's been fully approved.

Even then - I’ll wait a while to see what a larger distribution can tell us.

[NCjack]

26. No. I will wait for approval by EU.

[EarlG]

11. This will likely be a fail on all fronts

First you have people who understand that vaccines are essential for keeping the population healthy. Those people also understand that vaccines are safe because they get tested a lot before they're given to the public. They will probably be unwilling to take the vaccine right away because they will doubt that it has been tested enough to be given safely.

Then you have people who think that vaccines cause autism and/or are given to people as part of a massive mind-control program by the U.S. government. They will probably be unwilling to take the vaccine because they don't want to be body-snatched by lizard people.

Then you have people who think that COVID is a hoax and so there isn't any need to take a vaccine anyway. There's probably quite a lot of overlap between this group and the second group.

All that said, "I'll have a vaccine by election day," is probably going to end up falling into the same category of Trump promises as, "I'll give everyone great, cheap health care," or "I'll eliminate the national debt in eight years."

[Under The Radar]

12. Need to get the advice of my trusted family physician

[dalton99a]

23. I suspect he will try to make it mandatory for healthcare workers

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. Not just no but hell, no.

I'm not interested in being one of Trump's guinea pigs.

[SoonerPride]

14. Not a rushed vaccine that isn't propoerly vetted.

One that has completed proper efficacy and safety trials, yes.
But that won't happen until 2021 at the earliest.

[Thomas Hurt]

15. Don't think I can trust its efficacy. No.

It will be fun to watch the Trumpers flip flop though.

My Trumper extended family were all saying they wouldn't get any CV vaccine for various paranoiac reasons.

If Supreme Leader is hawking it, they will all toe the line.

[frazzled]

29. Efficacy isn't even the main problem

If it doesn't work, you aren't worse off than you were before—if, that is, you continue to observe precautions.

What I worry about more is if it can do harm. Until I know that serious side-effects are not widespread, I'm not taking it.

[misanthrope]

64. The harm it will do is the false sense of protection

It will prompt lax behavior that will result in a spike in new cases. You watch.

[frazzled]

67. Some people could have serious reactions

if it is not sufficiently tested.

Vaccines have to be safe as well as effective.

[misanthrope]

68. Oh, that's a given but even without side effects

if it doesn't provide immunity, it will guarantee the disease spreads wider.

[BBG]

16. See 1976 Swine Flu

I’ll wait for the brave, early adopters to shake out any early problems.

[ChazII]

24. My freshman year at

Arizona State and quite a few of the students got sick.

[Sherman A1]

17. It isn't

and NO.

It is however more distraction a tactic that has served Trump very well.

[dalton99a]

18. Trump says he would mobilize military to distribute coronavirus vaccine when it's ready

From May:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-military-distribution-ready/

Trump says he would mobilize military to distribute coronavirus vaccine when it's ready
By Kathryn Watson
May 15, 2020 / 11:56 AM / CBS News

President Trump says he would "rapidly" mobilize the U.S. military to distribute a coronavirus vaccine once it's ready, focusing first on nursing homes and the elderly most vulnerable to deadly complications from the virus. Mr. Trump made the comments during an interview with Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo.

"We're mobilizing our military and other forces but we're mobilizing our military on the basis that we do have a vaccine. You know, it's a massive job to give this vaccine. Our military is now being mobilized so at the end of the year we're going to be able to give it to a lot of people very, very rapidly," the president said.

"We will have a tremendous force because assuming we get it, then you have to distribute it," he added. "And unless you're mobilized and ready, you're not going to be able to do it for a long time. So we're starting now."

The president said he expects a vaccine to be available by the end of this year, a very optimistic timeline given that many experts, including Coronavirus Task Force member Dr. Anthony Fauci, say it will take at least 12 to 18 months. The virus has killed more than 84,000 Americans so far, as states begin to reopen their economies. The president indicated he expects that number to continue to climb.

[LisaL]

27. So is military going to grab people off the street and forcefully inject

the vaccine? At least a year is needed to properly test per Fauci. We have a month left till October.
So no way this vaccine will be properly tested.

[DesertRat]

19. I'll wait and watch. This is very dangerous

[keithbvadu2]

20. First, all repubs in Congress and Trump's entire family takes it.

First, all repubs in Congress and Trump's entire family takes it.

[StTimofEdenRoc]

39. They would get saline solution. We would get risky who knows what. I will not risk it, until after I

vote to get rid of him.

[2naSalit]

21. Nope.

[LisaL]

22. No.

That's absolutely not enough time to test it properly.
So it's going to be something approved by FDA because Trump pressured them.
Well, they approved hydroxy and we know how well that turned out.
So, thanks but no thanks.

[GemDigger]

25. I am allergic to many medical drugs

that being said I am going to wait a bit to make sure it is safe and then and ONLY then I will take the shot ONLY if I am sitting in the docs office in case I have a reaction. If I can't sit in an office to make sure I will not have reactions to it then I will not get the vaccine and continue being a hermit.

[dalton99a]

28. Everyone should start calling it the Trump vaccine.

[uponit7771]

47. +1,

[lagomorph777]

55. I automatically did. He expects that, but he doesn't expect what a massive fail this will be.

Antivaxers (generally they are Reptilicans) won't take it.
MAGATS won't take it because COVID is a hoax.
Sane people won't take it because The Trump Vaccine comes from Captain Clorox.

[Faux pas]

31. Hell

to the effing NO. Knowing the traitor and his merry band of assholes, I imagine any vaccine they come out with would be poison. His primary goal is to get rid of all the 'useless eaters'.

[Srkdqltr]

33. I have never been tested. I'm sure I won't be in the first wave to get the vaccine.

How do we know how long it lasts? What side effects for who.? To many questions not enough answers.

[StTimofEdenRoc]

34. That honor rightfully belongs to his supporters and family.

[Demsrule86]

35. No.

[beachbumbob]

36. not a f*cking chance, I will let trump supporters take it first if they can find any willing as they

are dominated with anti-vaxers AND don;t see COVID as the danger it is.


trump rushed a vaccine that no one takes will be hilarious

[katmondoo]

37. NO!!

[ananda]

38. NO

emphatically

[Polly Hennessey]

40. No.

[Baitball Blogger]

41. No. And it really freaks me out that they're giving it to first responders

and those in the medical field, first. Can you imagine the nightmare if these people went down due to side effects of an unproven vaccine?

[Baclava]

44. AstraZeneca's coronavirus vaccine becomes third to begin Phase three trials in the United States

The race is on...


(CNN)British drugmaker AstraZeneca said Monday it has started Phase 3 trials of its experimental coronavirus vaccine in the United States

The vaccine, developed in partnership with Oxford University, has the backing of the US federal government. Rivals Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTec already have Phase 3 trials under way, also with federal government funding.

AstraZeneca said it is "recruiting up to 30,000 adults aged 18 years or over from diverse racial, ethnic and geographic groups who are healthy or have stable underlying medical conditions, including those living with HIV, and who are at increased risk of infection from the SARS-CoV-2 virus."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/31/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-phase-3-trial/index.html

[vlyons]

42. Absolutely not!

Any vaccine MUST be approved by the FDA AFTER it has gone thru rigorous tests and trials with hundreds of thousands of people before I'll put it in my body. And I want to read what the possible after-effects and counter indications are.

I'm not stupid. I'm 73, a breast cancer are heart disease survivor.

[nancy1942]

43. No.

[kairos12]

45. Hell no. Trump Thalidomide!

[hvn_nbr_2]

50. You beat me to it! nt

[Ilsa]

46. Since it is unlikely that it has gone through

Proper sequences of research, waiting for data, etc, my answer is No, I would not take it. I don't need a neurological disease like Guillame-Barre.

[Tanuki]

48. I don't necessarily expect him to deliver on this any more than he did on his other

"promises" (e.g., he'll build a wall across the entire southern border and Mexico will pay for it, he'll create a wonderful new healthcare system, he'll rebuild our transportation infrastructure because "building is what he knows", etc. ). But if a vaccine does present itself in October, I will look at the available data and listen to the trusted scientific community (not administration hacks) and then make an informed choice. I work in health care and despite my best efforts to protect myself, I am well aware when I go to work each day that I run some risk of becoming infected. I just learned today that a colleague of mine, who is over 70 and diabetic, has tested positive and I am worried for him. I will not reject a vaccine out of hand if respected members of the virology and epidemiology communities believe it to be safe and effective. If they don't, I'll give it a hard pass. Even if I get an early vaccination, I expect to continue my current practice of near-isolation except for work, until the pandemic subsides.

[Greybnk48]

49. No way.

I will wait for Joe Biden’s CDC and the vaccine approved by his people, and just stay holed up in my house like we have been for six months.

[dalton99a]

52. +1. Trump's FDA and CDC can no longer be trusted on this matter.

Our regulatory agencies have been corrupted and compromised.

[womanofthehills]

51. No way in hell - they know very little about this virus

A rush job for Trump

[JI7]

53. No Real Vaccine is going to be an "October Surprise"

[lagomorph777]

54. It's a campaign stunt, as trustworthy as Hydroxycloroquine or Clorox or Demon Semen.

You must be fucking kidding. No sane person would take a Trump vaccine.
MAGATS won't take it either - they are anti-vaxers and they think COVD is a hoax.

[KWR65]

56. The vaccine could be rolled out to health care employees and nursing home patients first.

It won't be before January when the general population could get the vaccine.

[sinkingfeeling]

57. No

[Paladin]

58. I'm not taking ANYTHING without Dr. Fauci's public approval. (nt)

[GoCubsGo]

59. Not a chance.

I'll make an exception if it came out of Germany and had Angela Merkel's approval. But, anything approved by Trump's CDC and FDA--NO FUCKING WAY.

[GoneOffShore]

60. From the CDC at this time? No. From the WHO consortium? Yes.

[Talitha]

61. Only if Dr. Fauci gives it a thumbs-up.

[mnhtnbb]

62. No f*ing way.

[crimycarny]

63. No--but I would take an antiviral

Vaccines for COVID are being rushed without a lot of safety data. However, there are some promising anti-virals out there which already have years of safety data because they have been used previously for other viruses. The two I’m tracking are favipiravir:

https://www.contagionlive.com/news/fda-clears-favipiravir-covid19-facility-outbreak-prevention-study

And a antiviral that is used to treat coronavirus in cats:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200827155006.htm

Antivirals work in those who may not invoke a strong enough response to a vaccine. Also can be used post-exposure.

[SMC22307]

65. In my best Begbie voice, 'NO FUCKIN' WAY.' (n/t)

[LAS14]

66. Nope! nt

[Silent3]

69. After a Biden-administered purge of Trump lackeys from the FDA...

...and when the proper studies for safety and efficacy have been performed, then and only then will I take take a COVID-19 vaccine.

But I'd do so gladly and eagerly at that point.