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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI just finished "Melania and Me" by Stephanie Winston Wolkoff
Unless you like wading through banal, stupid, and boring scenes of insider jockeying for power in the West and East wings of the White House, save your money.
The only new info here is what validates what we've always known about Melania -- she's a morally lazy princess who doesn't care about a damned thing, least of all, Americans.
She's a Trump through and through.
Rachel covered it all, which only takes ten pages in the whole book.
And I read it so you don't have to.
UUGGHH!
secondwind
(16,903 posts)alwaysinasnit
(5,063 posts)ancianita
(36,014 posts)Karadeniz
(22,487 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)So the author doesnt explain the thieving graft or the taxpayer paid for entertainment, golfing, Melanias wardrobe or kidney procedures?
All that and no juicy gossip? What the f**k?!
ancianita
(36,014 posts)None of all that juicy stuff you'd hope to read. Nope. Just banal office jockeying stuff. Really crap.
Ivanka does, indeed, come off as maneuvering to take Melania's place in the WH power structure, but nothing specific, just sweeping in now and then to out-flank Melania's decisions about staff. Meh.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)good, which didn't work. A total waste of my money. I didn't intend to buy this one on Melania but thanks for the review.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)I learned, once again, to trust my instincts more.
A Brand New World
(1,119 posts)And so far I must agree.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)the money that went into the inauguration ceremonies. I was also interested in the strange fascination the author seemed to have with Melania, at least at first, and how she was so sure Melania was her good friend, when it was pretty clear that Melania was always all about Melania. Unlike her gross husband, she is apparently capable of seeming warm and nice, but when push comes to shove she's a taker. I don't know how or why the author fell under her spell, but she was absolutely, almost fanatically devoted to her, and evidently thought her loyalty would be reciprocated. But Melania and the rest of the WH staff threw her under the bus when the inauguration investigation started. Ivanka is also a snake, always trying to be the real First Lady, which is why Melania can't stand her. It's a nest of vipers, of course; that whole family is just evil. But I thought it was a pretty interesting read, even though I didn't care much about all the fashion shit.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:39 PM - Edit history (1)
Even then, it's about her learning from Michael Cohen that "the family" and Tom Barrack were doing to her what Trump did to Cohen, making her take the fall.
Rachel covered all that better than Wolkoff does, imo.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)I hear you about the buildup of her confusion about Melania's character. Passionate professionals often mistake validation by the rich means they care. But Melania is pretty suspect, imo, from the beginning. I was ready to feel sorry for her, then had to come to the conclusion that she really would rather ride with Trump's wealth than pitt her conscience against the money machine he runs. I think, deep down, she has steeled herself to believe that trying to accomplish anything beyond Barron's upbringing would be futile, anyway. And she's reset what authentic self she's had to become a Trump
I wonder what their original marriage deal actually was.
samnsara
(17,615 posts)...sometimes i feel good just knowing I ordered one. Like making a donation but getting something for it.
GopherGal
(2,008 posts)...while Stephanie's is "library wait list" fodder. Limits my contribution to "disgraced Trump enabler" retirement fund.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)it's not 200 pages of Donald bashing. It really is a family history and centered mostly around her father, Fred, Jr. It's pretty clear after hearing the tapes, her Aunt Maryanne is the source for a lot of the information.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)but I think it's well done because Mary confirmed all that she heard through her own interactions with her cousins and uncle. It's good because she shows the overall context that made Trump, and how he "won" by wholly adopting his father's substance and style.
The writing is excellent, and the threads of family members are well woven into scenes that move the timeline of Trump growing up.
It does give a clear picture of how a rich family interacts, parents' personalities, siblings' interactions, and each sibling's interaction with their parents.
DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)non-stop Donald bashing, that's not what her book is.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)I'm surprised at how well she humanizes his lack of conscience, or his dogged, dodging coverups of everything he trashes.
DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)child who is doomed to this fate.
Retrograde
(10,132 posts)according to their website, waiting time is "about six months", so I expect all the juicy bits will have been leaked by then.
Cornus
(871 posts)...I was thinking about getting it, but won't bother to now.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Healing vibes on the way to you. 💗💗💗
What a disgusting piece of crap the russian asset is.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)Thanks, SheltieLover. You've got a way with words. "Healing" is a good word for the hours I now realize I'll never get back.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I didn't mean it as a joke. 😊
That had to be absolutely sickening.
I truly do appreciate you reading & sharing with us.
You know, the old saying, "you are what you read." .... er, eat.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)Well, I hit a bad dish this time, for sure. Yech.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Please do something nice for yourself? Watch Car's cute animal videos or something. (Punch a pillow, throw ice cubes at the sidewalk, take something for irritated gut....)
ancianita
(36,014 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I'd be nauseated, disgusted & furious!
ancianita
(36,014 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)ancianita
(36,014 posts)I'll take the hit and give it away. Giving away both good and bad books. It's kinda my thing.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)if you take the same amount of time and do absolutely nothing you will have used your time in a much more positive way. It all balances out that way.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)even if you're kidding, you're right in this case. Time doing nothing is better.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)ancianita
(36,014 posts)mercuryblues
(14,526 posts)I wasn't going to buy or read it. You reinforced my take on what it's like. Most of these "tell all" books are self serving stuff that we already know.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)And you'd be right. I usually don't either, but just thought Rachel might have left out other good stuff. But there really isn't any.
This time, the Rachel bump was a bust.
mercuryblues
(14,526 posts)I knew the Pompeo book would be a waste of money and time. To incriminate trump, would be to incriminate himself.
I hope you're doing well
ancianita
(36,014 posts)Thank you. I hope you're doing well, too.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth. It was quite good.
The urgent and untold story of the collusion between Fox News and Donald Trump from the New York Times bestselling author of Top of the Morning.
While other leaders were marshaling resources to combat the greatest pandemic in modern history, President Donald Trump was watching TV. Trump watches over six hours of Fox News a day, a habit his staff refers to as executive time. In January 2020, when Fox News began to downplay COVID-19, the President was quick to agree. In March, as the deadly virus spiraled out of control, Sean Hannity mocked coronavirus hysteria as a new hoax from the left. Millions of Americans took Hannity and Trump's words as truthuntil some of them started to get sick.
In Hoax, CNN anchor and chief media correspondent Brian Stelter tells the twisted story of the relationship between Donald Trump and Fox News. From the moment Trump glided down the golden escalator to announce his candidacy in the 2016 presidential election to his acquittal on two articles of impeachment in early 2020, Fox hosts spread his lies and smeared his enemies. Over the course of two years, Stelter spoke with over 250 current and former Fox insiders in an effort to understand the inner workings of Rupert Murdoch's multibillion-dollar media empire. Some of the confessions are alarming. We don't really believe all this stuff, a producer says. We just tell other people to believe it.
At the center of the story lies Sean Hannity, a college dropout who, following the death of Fox News mastermind Roger Ailes, reigns supreme at the network that pays him $30 million a year. Stelter describes the raging tensions inside Fox between the Trump loyalists and the few remaining journalists. He reveals why former chief news anchor Shep Smith resigned in disgust in 2019; why a former anchor said if I stay here Ill get cancer; and how Trump has exploited the leadership vacuum at the top to effectively seize control of the network.
Including never before reported details, Hoax exposes the media personalities who, though morally bankrupt, profit outrageously by promoting the Presidents propaganda and radicalizing the American right. It is a book for anyone who reads the news and wonders: How did this happen?
ancianita
(36,014 posts)He's a grifter magnet, as is Rupert Murdoch's whole operation.
We have people in positions of power who allow all manner of venality and corruption around them.
We need to do background checks and vet all records of all candidates who take our money. We should not be fooled again.
CTyankee
(63,900 posts)ancianita
(36,014 posts)CTyankee
(63,900 posts)it. My choice. There's enough out there that's just as rough as it gets and I don't mind it if it is "good trouble" as John Lewis put it. I like to think we all here are doing good trouble otherwise we wouldn't be here.
I treasure my friends here at DU. So many beautiful minds here.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)You indeed have a beautiful mind. Please share this kind of love about DU often. It's good to receive such a gracious reminder of our best selves.
Rural_Progressive
(1,105 posts)ancianita
(36,014 posts)tavernier
(12,374 posts)I always plug in a book on my daily two mile walk. So far it doesnt really sound like they were particularly close other than the favors they could each try to get out of the other.
Warpy
(111,222 posts)I am not interested in anything the inner circle of that family, past or present, has to say unless it is a full confession as they throw themselves on the mercy of the court the day they're sentenced to prison.
Melania probably didn't have much to say about ditching this chick, it sounds like it was because Ivanka didn't like anybody who had her number as daddy's little narcissistic mini me.
I suppose this book will be popular among the "Real Housewives" fans, if any of them can read.
Meow.
I'm not a the "Real Housewives" fan, but I'm acquainted with a couple and would bet they'd find it a boring waste of their 'valuable' time. No juicy stuff in it. It's not even worth slogging through to get to the surprise scene right near the end with Michael Cohen.
LAS14
(13,780 posts)... stuff about the inaugural shenanigans. I was hoping someone would read it and give the answers. But I can't remember what the questions were!!! Can anyone help???? (Total trivia, but I was curious.)
tia
las
ancianita
(36,014 posts)LAS14
(13,780 posts)... referring to the really trivial stuff that, apparently, took up most of the book.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)Seriously. Just PM me.
LAS14
(13,780 posts)... find that Rachel show on Youtube or Xfinity and then send you the specific questions. Is that OK?
LAS14
(13,780 posts)1- Why did she wear a jacket saying "I don't really care, do you?" to the immigration camp?
2 - Why the scowl after she stepped back from smiling at Trump at the inauguration?
3 - Why did she want to and how did she block Ivanka from the visual of Trump getting inaugurated?
4 - Why the scowl after Ivanka passed her at the convention?
5 - Why "Be Best" (pp. 266 & 267)
6 - How did her sister Ines get a visa normally reserved for people of exceptional talent?
7 - Was the white color of her State of the Union suit supposed to mean something?
Thanks!!!!
ancianita
(36,014 posts)1. She wore the jacket unbeknownst to the designer because she always, without fail, wears whatever she likes, no matter the event. When she put the words on the jacket, she was referring to all Americans who, she says, criticize her and hub no matter what they say or do. She didn't care about going down to the border wearing it, and she only went to the border to show up Obama, who she claims never went there.
2. Her son, Barron, she says, had just kicked her in the ankle, and her downcast eyes were in reaction to that.
3. Blocking Ivanka was Melania's and Stephanie's joint photo project plan to not let Ivanka steal the limelight of the swearing in point of the inauguration because Melania was already pissed about Ivanka's taking over West Wing duties she'd felt should be hers. They positioned Ivanka so she would be blocked by those standing, and so not seen. The high-fived and celebrated it afterward.
4. Because she detests Ivanka for having taken over power and space in the White House, leaving her sidelined.
5. "Be Best," (though I detested the silly games arounding who should decided Melania's formal First Lady presentation to the US) was a success to Melania, whose speech about it was written by Stephanie, IIRC. It fell flat with media and the public, and imo, showed another instance of the bubble of toxic positivity that fills the family's bubble.
6. I didn't pay much attention to mention of her sister except to note that she lived in a Trump condo about four blocks from Jared and Ivanka. What I did notice is that Melania insists in general that every line of every bit of paperwork for their coming to the US was legal.
7. Not to her, it didn't. She said she wore it because she liked it, and didn't care what anyone else thought about it, even if women wanted to think she was making some suffragette echo.
Without using exact quotes from the book, since I didn't mark anything or dog-ear pages the way I always do, I hope these suffice.
LAS14
(13,780 posts)ancianita
(36,014 posts)LAS14
(13,780 posts)ancianita
(36,014 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,408 posts)BarbD
(1,192 posts)His latest tongue in cheek, clever and funny description of Palm Beach society and the Winter White House is a great escape. I just finished it and am still smiling. Should keep my blood pressure down for several days. The visual graphic description of dysfunction will stay in my head for a long time.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)Thanks for the suggestion.
I also love Tim Dorsey's hilarious books about two do-gooder crazy dudes in Florida. But Hiassen is the better writer.
bdamomma
(63,813 posts)wore was true, the I don't care................. only thinks about herself. You saved me some money.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)and cares not a whit what anyone thinks of her attitude.
Prof.Higgins
(194 posts)front page reporting which Melania's staff concocted to scapegoat an innocent staffer as being an incompetent, potentially a criminal, responsibie for tens of millions in missing Inauguration donations. Adding to this newspaper's travesty is the reporters claiming that they couldn't get in contact with Wolkoff, who received zero phone calls, messages or emails from the reporters before they rushed to destroy Wolkoff's reputation based entirely on unresearched and unverified propaganda shovelled to Haberman by White House "anonymous sources".
This critical development in the narrative doesn't emerge until the final 25 percent of the book, so you need to be interested in Melania's character flaws and superficialities to plow through the first 75 percent.
As Wolkoff has binders of receipts and documents to prove her innocence and has been assisting investigators, this is yet another epic failure after NYT's shameful propaganda for W. Bush administration's weapons of mass destruction possessed by Saddam Hussein, and their hundreds of front page articles obsessing about Hillary Clinton's emails.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)of journalism, and now lowers my level of trust in the New York Times, which I've gotten daily for 30 years.
I'm glad you bring this up. It got lost in the fog of my memory.
The more substantive points brought up here, the more I realize that Wolkoff could have used a better editor.
These binders are the source of some good future forensic work that will uncover participants of the grift. I hope more on that comes out before the election, even if it doesn't change the base's vote.
relayerbob
(6,543 posts)ancianita
(36,014 posts)complete.
ribrepin
(1,725 posts)I enjoyed the bitchiness contained in the book. I would feel ripped off if I paid for it.
ancianita
(36,014 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)SWW is a really good writer and lays out a chronology of her interactions with many others besides Melania. I remember reading those planted stories about Melania's "party planner" friend who was in charge of the PIC (prez inaugural committee) money, most of which went missing.
SWW was nowhere near the budget or purse strings, and she has the documentation to prove it.
She's also providing evidence & firsthand accounts to 3 separate serious investigations.
I highly recommend this book. It backs up virtually every unnamed source report about Donald & Melania that we've read & heard since 2015. And it sheds light on how dysfunctional this administration is. For example, the Trumps hired almost no one to take over the daily duties in the offices during the transition and had no idea what needed to be done. In fact, the only person with any calendar knowledge of events & obligations there was the calligrapher.
This book is both entertaining and terrifying.
kskiska
(27,045 posts)though I've read extensive excerpts. Looks like a good one.