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Augiedog

(2,543 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:49 PM Sep 2020

The wingnuts with guns at the protests are not Militia, organized or unorganized. They are

vigilantes. Or, if you prefer, assholes with guns. Legitimizing them by referencing them as Militia is incorrect and harmful to true Militia. True Militia are very real soldiers who have taken an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the United States.

They hold no loyalty to anything other than their personal wish to do harm to people they don’t like. Just like Civil War re-enactors they are playing. Playing at a potentially deadly game of chicken.

They have not been vetted or checked out. They have taken no known or recognized oaths. They have no accountable chain of command and they recognize no authority.

Just because someone dresses up as a soldier doesn’t make them one. Their clothing is designed to impart the threat that they can kill without consequence. They, at best, are trying to intimidate and At worst maybe even terrorize.

Some of these groups and individuals have been identified as the most dangerous threat of terrorism in America by the FBI and DOJ. They seem friends with law enforcement now, but when cops stop killing the people these vigilantes don’t like, they may well turn on the cops. Some of these groups and individuals believe the only legitimate authority in this country is the “Sheriff “.

White supremacy, fascism, nativism have long simmered in the shadows in America. These days, with trump leading the way, it’s ugly head is crawling out of the shadows and glorying in the chaos , hurt, pain and anger.

Do not give these people the honor of the title “Militia”.

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The wingnuts with guns at the protests are not Militia, organized or unorganized. They are (Original Post) Augiedog Sep 2020 OP
Murderers. C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #1
I think even "vigilantes" legitimizes them too much. They're terrorists. coti Sep 2020 #2
+1 dchill Sep 2020 #3
+2 crickets Sep 2020 #11
I was going to say the same. eom Control-Z Sep 2020 #13
I prefer domestic terrorists. redstatebluegirl Sep 2020 #4
ding. AllaN01Bear Sep 2020 #8
Why not! StClone Sep 2020 #9
Ayup. ZZenith Sep 2020 #10
Thugs and gang members Qutzupalotl Sep 2020 #5
I prefer the call them violent criminal gangs DBoon Sep 2020 #6
If it's a Black Militia, look out. safeinOhio Sep 2020 #7
Like it or not, these guys call themselves militias because they think of themselves... Thomas Hurt Sep 2020 #12
It is not an honor to be in a shitty militia. But I agree, they are scum. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #14

coti

(4,612 posts)
2. I think even "vigilantes" legitimizes them too much. They're terrorists.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:51 PM
Sep 2020

Vigilantes at least have a sincere intention of going after genuine criminals. These guys don't give a shit about criminality- they just want a war with liberals. It's ideological, and, as such, they're terrorists.

safeinOhio

(32,641 posts)
7. If it's a Black Militia, look out.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:00 PM
Sep 2020

Even the gun nuts know it. Here is a video done by a gun rights group that shows what happens when you happen to be the wrong color to be open carrying.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1550889/Test-shows-cops-react-white-vs-black-man-legally-carrying-guns.html

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
12. Like it or not, these guys call themselves militias because they think of themselves...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:29 PM
Sep 2020

as second amendment militias protecting the country from socialists and big guvmint.

Survivalist, Sovereigns, Constitutionalists, Patriot Movement, Bircher, Militia, all part of the christofascist far right.

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