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Trump thinks Americans who died at war are "losers" and "suckers" (Original Post) whathehell Sep 2020 OP
is there an actual recording... dhill926 Sep 2020 #1
4 sources plus the fact he didn't bother to go to the cemetery. grantcart Sep 2020 #19
This Headline should be on the front page of every news source SallyHemmings Sep 2020 #2
I see we're thinking alike! Blue Owl Sep 2020 #4
November 3rd can't get here soon enough SallyHemmings Sep 2020 #25
Abso fucking lutely!!! whathehell Sep 2020 #6
It ought to be Vogon_Glory Sep 2020 #13
This should be the headline in every major news outlet tomorrow Blue Owl Sep 2020 #3
Yup..His numbers with the military have been slipping.. whathehell Sep 2020 #12
I should see what military veterans and THEIR families think of such disrespect Vogon_Glory Sep 2020 #17
Yes, definitely..Spread the word to the extent you are able. n/t. whathehell Sep 2020 #26
That's funny, the rest of us Americans think that trump is a loser and sucker. SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #5
"Who were the good guys in this war?" dchill Sep 2020 #7
I didn't think he could sink lower in my estimation.. whathehell Sep 2020 #8
I think you should stay prepared. dchill Sep 2020 #10
There is no bottom. mobeau69 Sep 2020 #30
if so, where were you when you ran away to paris , colonel bone spurs? AllaN01Bear Sep 2020 #9
Because they didn't claim bone spurs to get out of service? Bayard Sep 2020 #11
Clips from the article: catbyte Sep 2020 #14
From the article and in it's context, "...performatively patriotic Trump..." describes him well. yonder Sep 2020 #15
I'm also wondering if there are any tapes of him saying these things...n/t Upthevibe Sep 2020 #16
this is just disgusting llashram Sep 2020 #18
It's despicable whathehell Sep 2020 #24
A MUST read, but won't bother his cult Faygo Kid Sep 2020 #20
I think whathehell Sep 2020 #28
Once Trump Denies We Really Need these Sources to Confirm their Statements Stallion Sep 2020 #21
That would be great..It does look, however, like the story is getting whathehell Sep 2020 #29
He's a coward and a disgusting POS. Totally Tunsie Sep 2020 #22
There are no words to capture the horror of Trump. BKDem Sep 2020 #23
This, from a "Commander in Chief??!" Rhiannon12866 Sep 2020 #27
That story just hit Joy Reid, a brief announcement near the end. nolabear Sep 2020 #31
Yes, I just saw it! whathehell Sep 2020 #32

Vogon_Glory

(9,109 posts)
13. It ought to be
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:08 PM
Sep 2020

Texas has a lot of military bases. The men and women who serve down here should no what sort of “respect” Donnie has for them. So should these people’s families. So should the veterans who served and their families.

Furthermore, Senators Cornyn and Cruz, and also Governor Abbott’s action or inaction about such outrageous disrespect should be held to account.

Blue Owl

(50,291 posts)
3. This should be the headline in every major news outlet tomorrow
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:53 PM
Sep 2020

Donald tRump, the greatest coward in the history of the world, disses the brave men and women who sacrificed their lives for the country he thinks he presides over. These soldiers didn't die so that a piece of shit like tRump could cheat and steal his way into office.

FUCK TRUMP. I wanna see this fucker destroyed in November or sooner, if possible...

Vogon_Glory

(9,109 posts)
17. I should see what military veterans and THEIR families think of such disrespect
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:11 PM
Sep 2020

There are a lot of them here in Texas, and for years the Republicans used to run on their superior respect for the military and the men and women in uniform.

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
5. That's funny, the rest of us Americans think that trump is a loser and sucker.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:55 PM
Sep 2020

Correction, the BIGGEST loser and BIGGEST sucker.

catbyte

(34,341 posts)
14. Clips from the article:
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:09 PM
Sep 2020

On Memorial Day 2017, Trump visited Arlington National Cemetery, a short drive from the White House. He was accompanied on this visit by John Kelly, who was then the secretary of homeland security, and who would, a short time later, be named the White House chief of staff. The two men were set to visit Section 60, the 14-acre area of the cemetery that is the burial ground for those killed in America’s most recent wars. Kelly’s son Robert is buried in Section 60. A first lieutenant in the Marine Corps, Robert Kelly was killed in 2010 in Afghanistan. He was 29. Trump was meant, on this visit, to join John Kelly in paying respects at his son’s grave, and to comfort the families of other fallen service members. But according to sources with knowledge of this visit, Trump, while standing by Robert Kelly’s grave, turned directly to his father and said, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” Kelly (who declined to comment for this story) initially believed, people close to him said, that Trump was making a ham-handed reference to the selflessness of America’s all-volunteer force. But later he came to realize that Trump simply does not understand non-transactional life choices.

“He can’t fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself,” one of Kelly’s friends, a retired four-star general, told me. “He just thinks that anyone who does anything when there’s no direct personal gain to be had is a sucker. There’s no money in serving the nation.” Kelly’s friend went on to say, “Trump can’t imagine anyone else’s pain. That’s why he would say this to the father of a fallen marine on Memorial Day in the cemetery where he’s buried.”

I’ve asked numerous general officers over the past year for their analysis of Trump’s seeming contempt for military service. They offer a number of explanations. Some of his cynicism is rooted in frustration, they say. Trump, unlike previous presidents, tends to believe that the military, like other departments of the federal government, is beholden only to him, and not the Constitution. Many senior officers have expressed worry about Trump’s understanding of the rules governing the use of the armed forces. This issue came to a head in early June, during demonstrations in Washington, D.C., in response to police killings of Black people. James Mattis, the retired Marine general and former secretary of defense, lambasted Trump at the time for ordering law-enforcement officers to forcibly clear protesters from Lafayette Square, and for using soldiers as props: “When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution,” Mattis wrote. “Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.”

snip

Trump has been, for the duration of his presidency, fixated on staging military parades, but only of a certain sort. In a 2018 White House planning meeting for such an event, Trump asked his staff not to include wounded veterans, on grounds that spectators would feel uncomfortable in the presence of amputees. “Nobody wants to see that,” he said.

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What an empty, hollow, pathetic, worthless POS.

yonder

(9,657 posts)
15. From the article and in it's context, "...performatively patriotic Trump..." describes him well.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:10 PM
Sep 2020

Among many others of course.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
18. this is just disgusting
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:12 PM
Sep 2020

coming from the CIC. This potus has been disrespecting military personnel who every day put their lives on the line so we don't have to from day one of his crime spree called a presidency. He signed a piece of paper and said he'll put it on e-bay for 10,000 dollars and one of his deplorable minions might just buy it. trump is a cowardly traitor unfit for the position of dog catcher.

I served, did he?

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
24. It's despicable
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:20 PM
Sep 2020

It seems almost inhuman, to me, and no, he certainly did NOT serve..He got four or five deferments out of Vietnam..

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
29. That would be great..It does look, however, like the story is getting
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:03 PM
Sep 2020

Cable Need exposure -- I'm listening to Joy Reid feature it now.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
22. He's a coward and a disgusting POS.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:18 PM
Sep 2020

I hope to someday have the opportunity and honor of spitting on his grave.

BKDem

(1,733 posts)
23. There are no words to capture the horror of Trump.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:19 PM
Sep 2020

But there are plenty of words that simply don’t apply, beginning with human.

nolabear

(41,937 posts)
31. That story just hit Joy Reid, a brief announcement near the end.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:06 PM
Sep 2020

Expect Rachel, or Lawrence, to be epic. I saw one confirmation on Twitter from an msnbc reporter who spoke to someone today.

Names. We need names. C’mon Kelly. Come to Jesus.

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