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Why Evangelicals Are Still Voting For Donald Trump (Original Post) In It to Win It Sep 2020 OP
Why do they still believe in a virgin birth? vlyons Sep 2020 #1
If they really believed any of that, they'd never support dump. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #2
Raised to believe in it. I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2020 #3
Yep. Alacritous Crier Sep 2020 #5
They are practicing spiritual materialism vlyons Sep 2020 #9
Yes... Mike Nelson Sep 2020 #4
Because among everything else they are deplorable Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #6
A lot seem to be anti-abortion single-issue voters Klaralven Sep 2020 #7
exactly, its all about abortion RazzleCat Sep 2020 #8
Which is a big part of why they won't vote for a woman... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #11
Very true Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #13
Abortion, judges, and racism. SamKnause Sep 2020 #10
They are idiots? Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #12
From Cohen's book Gothmog Sep 2020 #14
On the abortion "issue", rownesheck Sep 2020 #15

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. Why do they still believe in a virgin birth?
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 09:27 AM
Sep 2020

or that Jesus ascended into heaven (wherever that is) by escaping earth's gravity without a rocket or an oxygen supply? Or how a 3-day corpse reanimated and came back to life?

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
3. Raised to believe in it.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 09:36 AM
Sep 2020

From early childhood
So they also learned to trust the wrong people because in belief systems lies manipulative people and books.

Born to be exploited,sadly and they are too afraid of thier god and want a theocracy.

Jesus didn't want to rule the world,he was offered the world and said no.
He let Satan have it.

So tell me again why theocracy isn't anything but trying to make Satan's world that Jesus let him have Christian?

Btw I escaped being stuck in a evangelical church.

Assemblies of god is a rwnj church a very manipulative church.


vlyons

(10,252 posts)
9. They are practicing spiritual materialism
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:45 AM
Sep 2020

which is when people use religion to enhance and glorify their egos.

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
4. Yes...
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 09:45 AM
Sep 2020

... enlightening. Not touched upon, tho, are the group of evangelicals believing Crooked Donald is somehow "divine" or "guided by Jesus."

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
6. Because among everything else they are deplorable
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 09:50 AM
Sep 2020

Christian evangelicals use the idea of a god to justify their bigotry and their overall life's failings. And they love to claim that they are being persecuted.

We have some in our family. I refuse to interact with them. Life is too short to put yourself through listening to their bullshit.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
7. A lot seem to be anti-abortion single-issue voters
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 09:54 AM
Sep 2020

They will never vote for a candidate that supports a woman's right to choose.

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
11. Which is a big part of why they won't vote for a woman...
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:53 AM
Sep 2020

or at least not for the "wrong" woman candidate. And since all of us Dems are evil baby killers...

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
13. Very true
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 11:02 AM
Sep 2020

And saw a great response on Facebook they other day:

If by my vote for Biden I am supporting abortion, than by that logic, I will also I hold you accountable for children being taken from parents (many have not yet been reunited), for a pandemic that was horrifically mismanaged, resulting in millions out of work and 170,000 dead. I'll hold you accountable then, for global warming, for the deterioration of our democracy, government overreach, voters thrown off the voter rolls, foreign meddling in our elections, discrediting of media, constant lying and general incompetence. You can also be responsible for our uniquely American gun violence issue. You are accountable then, for a kid killing protesters and another kid shooting you a Walmart, because the POTUS actually says things like that. And strangely, people listen to you when you are POTUS.

My Catholic faith is not what tells me abortion is wrong. science tells me that. My faith tells me that killing is wrong, that allowing people to live in poverty and among violence is wrong. my faith tells me to protect the not-yet-born, but that is not my only obligation. I cannot ignore all the other people suffering and vote for Trump (or any other Republican this year) because of that one issue. It sounds like you are correct about people trying to find a way to justify their support of a candidate...it's not me though.

When I choose a candidate, I carefully consider who will be impacted and how, prioritizing g the needs of the vulnerable and marginalized. In the case of the not-yet-born, I vote for Democrats despite their positioning on abortion. I do so in good conscience knowing that it is the best choice that I have and that their policies are more likely than those of Republicans to lessen the "need" for abortion. I also know that far more lives will be saved than the number which will be lost to abortion. In this situation I just choose between lives, I do not have a perfect option. if you want one arbitrary pro life issue to base all you’re voting on then make it gun violence. Why not? we lose 100 people every day and 200 people are injured.

I act with integrity according to my faith (all elements of my faith, not a select few)

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
15. On the abortion "issue",
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 03:46 PM
Sep 2020

I follow the words of Bill Hicks. Something to the effect of, "A fetus is not a person. It's just a bunch of coagulated cells. They're not a person until they're in my phone book."

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