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Remember when Marine One could fly through rain? (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Sep 2020 OP
Remember when our President didn't worry about getting his hair wet? CottonBear Sep 2020 #1
And remember, tRump can't be caught w/an umbrella Duppers Sep 2020 #8
Six months later, and he still hasn't learned how to close an umbrella. Totally Tunsie Sep 2020 #16
Sure do. Miss him too! Totally Tunsie Sep 2020 #19
Sigh .... Ohiogal Sep 2020 #2
I even remember when it was OK for a military member marybourg Sep 2020 #3
I bet Tammy Duckworth flew Her med chopper in rain. ResistantAmerican17 Sep 2020 #4
While I don't support IQ45's explanation relayerbob Sep 2020 #5
Top of the line Choppers have crash avoidance technology that allow them to fly Blue_true Sep 2020 #15
Yes, I am well aware of that relayerbob Sep 2020 #21
I agree that they could have driven. Blue_true Sep 2020 #22
Coming from a very military family relayerbob Sep 2020 #24
Now trump says it was the fog that prevented the cemetery visit GreatCaesarsGhost Sep 2020 #6
He always forgets to mention that the fog didn't stop any of the real leaders. SeattleVet Sep 2020 #10
Fabric Swatches. Kid Berwyn Sep 2020 #25
To be fair Trump is related to whistler162 Sep 2020 #7
That was before we had wet hair and runny makeup alerts that that ground it. Snake Plissken Sep 2020 #9
Two things i saw in this short video. usaf-vet Sep 2020 #11
He also wasn't swinging his right foot out as he walked. nt tblue37 Sep 2020 #13
Shortly after this incident became public... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2020 #12
Yes. The most state of the art Chopper in the world couldn't fly. Blue_true Sep 2020 #17
Choopers come with windshield wipers for a reason. pwb Sep 2020 #14
Trump just gave a bullshit excuse and at least one person in this thread fell for it. nt Blue_true Sep 2020 #18
Yeah, back when the pilots were instrument rated. trof Sep 2020 #20
Yes I also remember when our President Tribetime Sep 2020 #23

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
8. And remember, tRump can't be caught w/an umbrella
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 02:07 PM
Sep 2020

He doesn't know how they work:


MSNBC (@MSNBC) Tweeted:
WATCH: President Trump abandons his open umbrella at the door to Air Force One while departing for Indianapolis on Saturday. https://t.co/hcKeMIhifg


?s=20

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
16. Six months later, and he still hasn't learned how to close an umbrella.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 06:56 PM
Sep 2020

Here, he hands it off to someone waiting inside the plane door.


marybourg

(12,584 posts)
3. I even remember when it was OK for a military member
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 11:18 AM
Sep 2020

to hold an umbrella over the head of his c-i-c, before the disgusting attack and smear tactics of the publicans on every thing President Obama did.

relayerbob

(6,537 posts)
5. While I don't support IQ45's explanation
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 01:57 PM
Sep 2020

The problem with flying that day was fog, not rain - Kobe Bryant is the obvious example of why you don't fly helicopters in fog. No one flew, and all the other leaders simply drove to the site, so the Trumkopf's explanation remains worthless.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Top of the line Choppers have crash avoidance technology that allow them to fly
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 06:56 PM
Sep 2020

in any weather. The Chopper that Kobe, his child, the child’s coach, another player and her the parents, and a college baseball coach, and the pilot died on didn’t have that technology installed, so the pilot had no sense of where he was relative to high hills and the ground. Prince Charles regularly flies in the type of Chopper that killed Bryant and others, England has lots of fog, but the Royal Chopper has state of the art technology, like Marine One surely has.

relayerbob

(6,537 posts)
21. Yes, I am well aware of that
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 09:53 PM
Sep 2020

However, no one else flew either, so ground control probably banned the flights. In any case, it wasn't just rain, and they could have driven.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. I agree that they could have driven.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 10:00 PM
Sep 2020

With that many top world leaders taking the same basic route, I would guess that the route was crawling with security people. There was a story that Trump was mad at Macron, in his small brain he may have concluded that not making the trip was an insult toward Macron. I honestly don’t see how any active military or Vet would want to support such a person.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
10. He always forgets to mention that the fog didn't stop any of the real leaders.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 02:16 PM
Sep 2020

They were able to get there. He could have easily taken The Beast motorcade and been able to read Golf magazines (or at least look at the pictures) all the way there and back.

Kid Berwyn

(14,795 posts)
25. Fabric Swatches.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:21 AM
Sep 2020

Trump loves looking at fabric swatches.





Trump is a moron fixated by fabric swatches.

Trump, the billion-dollar loser — I was his ghostwriter and saw it happen


Charles Leerhson
Yahoo.com, May 9, 2019

EXCERPT...

I tend to see my time with him — the first part of it, anyway, before things started going bad in a hurry — as his “King Midas” period. I never said this to him; if I had, he probably would have thought I was suggesting he enter the muffler business. But there was a stretch of months when everything he touched turned into a deal. The banks seemed to accept the version of him depicted in his first book, “The Art of the Deal,” which we now know from his previous ghostwriter, Tony Schwartz, was entirely invented. They believed it over what they saw on his balance sheets or heard coming out of his mouth, and they never said no to his requests for more money. Often they came up with things he could say yes to before he could think of them himself. As a result, a failing real estate developer who had little idea of what he was doing and less interest in doing it once he’d held the all-important press conference wound up owning three New Jersey hotel-casinos, the Plaza Hotel, the Eastern Airlines Shuttle and a 281-foot yacht.

A real go-getter, right? But Trump’s portfolio did not jibe with what I saw each day — which to a surprisingly large extent was him looking at fabric swatches. Indeed, flipping through fabric swatches seemed at times to be his main occupation. Some days he would do it for hours, then take me in what he always called his “French military helicopter” to Atlantic City — where he looked at more fabric swatches or sometimes small samples of wood paneling. It was true that the carpets and drapes at his properties needed to be refreshed frequently, and the seats on the renamed Trump Shuttle required occasional reupholstering. But the main thing about fabric swatches was that they were within his comfort zone — whereas, for example, the management of hotels and airlines clearly wasn’t. One of his aides once told me that every room at the Plaza could be filled at the “rack rate” (list price) every night, and the revenue still wouldn’t cover the monthly payment of the loan he’d taken out to buy the place. In other words, he’d made a ridiculous deal. Neither he nor the banks had done the math beforehand. Or perhaps Trump knew it because someone had told him, but didn’t want to think about it. The one thing he is above-average at is compartmentalization.

Source:

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-the-billiondollar-loser-his-ghostwriter-recalls-the-king-midas-years-090000640.html



Magazines and books and briefing papers warning him Putin has a bounty on American servicemen and women, not so much.

usaf-vet

(6,161 posts)
11. Two things i saw in this short video.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 02:19 PM
Sep 2020

1. Trump could walk up a set of stairs without holding on. HE HAS DETERIORATED without a doubt.

2. He left the umbrella outside because he DIDN'T WANT HIS HAIRPIECE and COMB OVER to get wet.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
12. Shortly after this incident became public...
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 02:23 PM
Sep 2020

I put up this thread about it.

It is utter horseshit that the UH 60 (Or the Sea King, whichever they brought with them) couldn’t fly that day.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. Yes. The most state of the art Chopper in the world couldn't fly.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 06:59 PM
Sep 2020

Prince Charles regularly fly in worse weather on his Royal Chopper.

pwb

(11,246 posts)
14. Choopers come with windshield wipers for a reason.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 06:47 PM
Sep 2020

The military requires all weather capability. The presidents chopper can fly in any weather.

Tribetime

(4,681 posts)
23. Yes I also remember when our President
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 10:08 PM
Sep 2020

Didn't wear a girdle or lift shoes and stand like a stick was up his ass

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