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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 03:59 PM Sep 2020

A Big Chunk of White Americans With Degrees And People Of Color Are Behind Trump

The overarching story of recent American elections is that 1) voters of color, who have long been Democratic-leaning, are a growing share of the electorate; 2) white voters with college degrees are increasingly shifting to the Democrats; and 3) white voters without degrees are aligning more with the GOP. But those trends, because they get so much focus, can warp our understanding of the electorate as it exists right now. Demographics are not yet destiny in American elections — millions of people don’t align with the party their race and ethnicity or education would predict. Case in point: In 2016, more than a third of President Trump’s support nationally came from non-Hispanic white Americans with college degrees (26 percent) and Asian, Black and Hispanic voters (12 percent), according to Pew Research Center data. On the flip side, about a quarter of Hillary Clinton’s supporters were non-Hispanic white Americans without degrees.

White Americans without degrees aren’t as likely to vote for Trump as in 2016, according to polls — which partly explains why Biden leads in national polls and key swing states like Pennsylvania. But a big reason Trump could still win the Electoral College, despite the poor marks Americans give him for his handling of COVID-19 and his job performance overall, is that the Black, Hispanic and college-educated white voters who backed him in 2016 are largely still with him, particularly in key swing states.

In other words, while Trump is a radical departure from previous GOP candidates in terms of personal style and his frequent racist comments, voters haven’t radically changed their voting patterns amid his rise in U.S. politics — the Americans who voted for Mitt Romney in 2012 overwhelmingly backed Trump in 2016 (about 90 percent) and those backed who Trump in 2016 are overwhelmingly behind him in 2020 (about 94 percent).

That fact helps explain how Trump won in 2016 and why he might still come back in 2020. Here’s a more detailed look at those three groups:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-big-chunk-of-white-americans-with-degrees-and-people-of-color-are-behind-trump/

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A Big Chunk of White Americans With Degrees And People Of Color Are Behind Trump (Original Post) Klaralven Sep 2020 OP
I don't consider a combination of Asians, Hispanics and Blacks making up 12 % to be a "big chunk" StarfishSaver Sep 2020 #1
Agree secondwind Sep 2020 #4
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #13
Agree over here. qwlauren35 Sep 2020 #18
It also doesn't make sense to include people who don't think they are "of color" StarfishSaver Sep 2020 #19
+1 betsuni Sep 2020 #23
He won't have a comeback. secondwind Sep 2020 #2
Didn't I just read a Op saying the race was tight? Now this? Sigh.... LizBeth Sep 2020 #3
Use the crappy news to stay focused budkin Sep 2020 #7
I do not need to be told to focus. Eye on the prize or keep fighting or anything else. Seriously. LizBeth Sep 2020 #10
Wasn't trying to scold. I apologize that I came off that way. budkin Sep 2020 #11
Article does not factor in that he cheated.. HipChick Sep 2020 #5
Kevin Jackson, the Blacksphere ChazII Sep 2020 #6
Gosh! A newbie with a discouraging word. 11 Bravo Sep 2020 #8
One might wonder, but who am I to say? n/t ariadne0614 Sep 2020 #12
And this isn't the first time. smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #14
Or the first newbie. LisaL Sep 2020 #20
....... obamanut2012 Sep 2020 #26
This is by Perry Bacon...I would take it with a grain of salt. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #9
I'm not familiar with Perry Bacon kurtcagle Sep 2020 #16
Yes, He doesn't like BidenI IMHO. He is not overt about it but it is there. He wrote an article in Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #25
Однако ты попал сюда товарищ... orwell Sep 2020 #15
Нет необходимости в подробном пл Klaralven Sep 2020 #17
Dear Klaralven qwlauren35 Sep 2020 #21
How long, DU? Honestly? greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #22
Nate Silver has become sloppy GeorgiaPeanut Sep 2020 #24
so a college education does not guarantee a reasoning mind Demonaut Sep 2020 #27
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
1. I don't consider a combination of Asians, Hispanics and Blacks making up 12 % to be a "big chunk"
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 04:03 PM
Sep 2020

Blacks are overwhelmingly voting against Trump and for Biden. They are not a part of a "big chunk" of Trump supporters.

And it appears that Bacon is lumping together all Hispanic voters and not differentiating between those who identify as white and those who consider themselves to be people of color. White Hispanics have long skewed conservative. But they shouldn't be counted as "people of color" unless that color is white.

If you have to cobble together every Hispanic and non-white group to get a number over 10%, you're pretty desperate for an angle.

This kind of twisted take is exactly what we don't need.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
19. It also doesn't make sense to include people who don't think they are "of color"
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:59 PM
Sep 2020

The whole analysis is a hot mess ...

budkin

(6,699 posts)
7. Use the crappy news to stay focused
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 04:08 PM
Sep 2020

Eyes on the prize. Keep fighting and phone banking if you can!

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
10. I do not need to be told to focus. Eye on the prize or keep fighting or anything else. Seriously.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 04:11 PM
Sep 2020

That is all I am reading the last couple days. What makes you assume I need your scold?

ChazII

(6,203 posts)
6. Kevin Jackson, the Blacksphere
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 04:07 PM
Sep 2020

and Jamal who does the Mind of Jamal are African Americans that pop up on Facebook pages. Rocky Mountain Black Republicans are also on some of my friends pages.

Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
25. Yes, He doesn't like BidenI IMHO. He is not overt about it but it is there. He wrote an article in
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 08:10 AM
Sep 2020

08 about Obama that made me so angry...I still remember it...I have posted a link. I don't trust the guy and tend to take anything that he writes with a grain of salt...but it is an opinion of course. Others may have a different viewpoint. Some of said he just likes to stir things up...I don't know but, not anyone I would listen to.

Some of his other articles.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/young-democrats-have-rejected-biden-and-it-could-cost-him-the-nomination/

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-commitments-can-sanders-and-the-left-get-from-biden/

And this is an old article from 08 but one of the worst things I ever read...never forgot it...about Pres. Obama.

https://archives.cjr.org/campaign_desk/post_75.php

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
17. Нет необходимости в подробном пл
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:53 PM
Sep 2020

Американцы все делают сами.

qwlauren35

(6,145 posts)
21. Dear Klaralven
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:01 PM
Sep 2020

It's a legit article. It's a legit source.

BUT! There is so much to the premise that is wrong, that I'm going to take it as an anecdotal/opinion piece with sloppy statistics, written to make people wring their hands.

Don't let it get to you. As someone else said: do some phonebanking. It might cheer you up!

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