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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:42 PM Sep 2020

Donald Trump has struggled to settle on messaging to attack Joe Biden. Tonight in North Carolina, he


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Kendall Brown
@kendallybrown
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Olivia Nuzzi
@Olivianuzzi
Donald Trump has struggled to settle on messaging to attack Joe Biden. Tonight in North Carolina, he opened his remarks with the line, “If Biden wins, China wins.” The crowd here responded with near-silence.
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Donald Trump has struggled to settle on messaging to attack Joe Biden. Tonight in North Carolina, he (Original Post) soothsayer Sep 2020 OP
#fatdonnie vomits word salad demtenjeep Sep 2020 #1
And he missed, if tRump wins, Putin wins MiniMe Sep 2020 #2
You beat me to it. no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 #3
They want to hear you brag. Rag people out. underpants Sep 2020 #4
Oh exactly.. I wondered why the silence?? You are right. They don't want to hear it Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #8
The drugs are not working Gothmog Sep 2020 #5
What does that even mean? The Genealogist Sep 2020 #6
Con artists and cutpurses always engage in misdirection. Look over there! Tanuki Sep 2020 #7
Trump is a muddled messenger. dubyadiprecession Sep 2020 #9

underpants

(182,603 posts)
4. They want to hear you brag. Rag people out.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:56 PM
Sep 2020

They don’t want to hear about this crap.

Knows how to read a crowd huh?

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
6. What does that even mean?
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:59 PM
Sep 2020

Its just something he says, part of a never-ending cascade of blather pouring forth from his mouth. And this from a man who probably can't even take a shit without permission from his overlord Vlad.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
7. Con artists and cutpurses always engage in misdirection. Look over there!
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 09:17 PM
Sep 2020
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/01/29/jared-kushner-is-chinas-trump-card/amp

"In early 2017, shortly after Jared Kushner moved into his new office in the West Wing of the White House, he began receiving guests. One visitor who came more than once was Cui Tiankai, the Chinese Ambassador to the United States, a veteran diplomat with a postgraduate degree from Johns Hopkins University. When, during previous Administrations, Cui had visited the White House, his hosts received him with a retinue of China specialists and note-takers. Kushner, President Trump’s thirty-seven-year-old son-in-law and one of his senior advisers, preferred smaller gatherings.
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In Kushner, Cui found a confident, attentive, and inexperienced counterpart. The former head of his family’s real-estate empire, which is worth more than a billion dollars, Kushner was intent on bringing a businessman’s sensibility to matters of state. He believed that fresh, confidential relationships could overcome the frustrations of traditional diplomatic bureaucracy. Henry Kissinger, who, in his role as a high-priced international consultant, maintains close relationships in the Chinese hierarchy, had introduced Kushner to Cui during the campaign, and the two met three more times during the transition. In the months after Trump was sworn in, they met more often than Kushner could recall. “Jared became Mr. China,” Michael Pillsbury, a former Pentagon aide on Trump’s transition team, said.

But Cui’s frequent encounters with Kushner made some people in the U.S. government uncomfortable. On at least one occasion, they met alone, which counterintelligence officials considered risky. “There’s nobody else there in the room to verify what was said and what wasn’t, so the Chinese can go back and claim anything,” a former senior U.S. official who was briefed on the meetings said. “I’m sorry, Jared—do you think your background is going to allow you to be able to outsmart the Chinese Ambassador?” Kushner, the official added, “is actually pretty smart. He just has limited life experiences. He was acting with naïveté.”

By now, Americans are accustomed to reports of Russia’s efforts to influence American politics, but, in the intelligence community, China’s influence operations are a source of equal concern. In recent years, the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. have dedicated increased resources to tracking efforts by the Chinese government to spy on or to enlist Western officials in pursuit of their policy goals. (The F.B.I. and the C.I.A. declined to comment on this.) “The Chinese influence operations are more long-term, broader in scope, and are generally designed to achieve a more diffuse goal than the Russians’ are,” Christopher Johnson, a former C.I.A. analyst who specializes in China, said. “To be unkind to the Russians, you’d say they are more crass.”

Kushner often excluded the government’s top China specialists from his meetings with Cui, a slight that rankled and unnerved the bureaucracy. “He went in utterly unflanked by anyone who could find Beijing on a map,” a former member of the National Security Council said. Some officials who were not invited to Kushner’s sessions or briefed on the outcomes resorted to scouring American intelligence reports to see how Chinese diplomats described their dealings with Kushner. Other U.S. officials spoke to Cui directly about the meetings. Kushner was “their lucky charm,” the former N.S.C. member said. “It was a dream come true. They couldn’t believe he was so compliant.” (A spokesman for Kushner said that none of the China specialists told him that “he shouldn’t be doing it the way he was doing it at the time.”)....(more)




dubyadiprecession

(5,678 posts)
9. Trump is a muddled messenger.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 09:30 PM
Sep 2020

If he didn’t keep tripping himself, the fool might be able to give out of his own way.

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