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Trump cancels ad buys in AZ, IA, NV, NH, OH and PA markets (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2020 OP
Well, well Bayard Sep 2020 #1
He's out of money. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #6
He's low. They could be just waiting for a big buy underpants Sep 2020 #13
NRA isn't coming to rescue him, either. It has enough problems now. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2020 #57
Bankrupt. Again. C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #2
Of course not. It means they have to send another round of donation to Trump Claustrum Sep 2020 #7
It's gonna piss those Republican suckers off bigly when they learn.... Brother Buzz Sep 2020 #19
I thought we the taxpayers were paying the DOJ to handle his legal expenses? renate Sep 2020 #50
The fix is in? Squinch Sep 2020 #3
my first thought spanone Sep 2020 #37
That's exactly what I am thinking. smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #55
Um... that's surprising. I guess they have to fine tune their ads again n/t Claustrum Sep 2020 #4
running out of money and giving up in states where Joe Biden is likely to win. drray23 Sep 2020 #5
Biden can win without Florida. I don't think Trump can... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #15
They will still be seen on-line in those states... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #8
Getting stupid cards in the mail in fl bedazzled Sep 2020 #27
For this week correct awesomerwb1 Sep 2020 #9
This is a weekly report Nevilledog Sep 2020 #11
You should reflect that in your thread title awesomerwb1 Sep 2020 #28
The tweet clearly reflects the time period. Nevilledog Sep 2020 #30
It does awesomerwb1 Sep 2020 #32
I'm good. Nevilledog Sep 2020 #33
Don't doubt you are. awesomerwb1 Sep 2020 #36
Good! I won't be exposed to his ads/his face/his voice! Frustratedlady Sep 2020 #10
Believe they're broke at your own peril awesomerwb1 Sep 2020 #12
They always seem to find the money they need... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #16
A few Roubles will appear, as if by magic. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #29
Are those the states qwlauren35 Sep 2020 #14
Winning FL, GA, MI, MN, NC, and WI would get them to 285 with 1 EV from Maine Renew Deal Sep 2020 #17
Really? I don't think Biden needs NC to win Claustrum Sep 2020 #31
Agree and maybe I should have put it another way. Renew Deal Sep 2020 #34
Or Florida or Ohio Tribetime Sep 2020 #38
Agree Renew Deal Sep 2020 #40
If he wins Ohio he will get 400 EVs Cosmocat Sep 2020 #41
No it isn't obamanut2012 Sep 2020 #49
It isn't? Renew Deal Sep 2020 #59
so many questions GusBob Sep 2020 #18
Wow so they are giving up those states already fescuerescue Sep 2020 #20
They could figure IA and OH are in the bag sweetloukillbot Sep 2020 #24
nothing indicates anywhere that Iowa and Ohio are in the trump bag, far from it beachbumbob Sep 2020 #42
They're not in Biden's sweetloukillbot Sep 2020 #51
I got historical data and when you are incumbent and under 50% as trump is under 50 in both beachbumbob Sep 2020 #52
It's a weekly report awesomerwb1 Sep 2020 #26
Trying to lose but not by much MissB Sep 2020 #21
Trump might be broke, but Putin isn't. Aristus Sep 2020 #22
putin doesn't have the NRA to launder money to trump's campaign beachbumbob Sep 2020 #43
Spending money in Georgia and North Carolina? That's telling! davsand Sep 2020 #23
Giving up on OH and PA and AZ? Wow. And fighting for GA and NC?? Roland99 Sep 2020 #25
I'm guessing he cancelled IA and OH because he feels he doesn't need to advertise there as much democrattotheend Sep 2020 #35
If he thinks a 2 or 3% lead is solid he's in trouble Tribetime Sep 2020 #39
yep, and he is far from solid in either state beachbumbob Sep 2020 #44
Yeah Cosmocat Sep 2020 #45
His ads in Wisco are often and really nasty. Greybnk48 Sep 2020 #46
What exactly happened to the money? LisaL Sep 2020 #47
I don't understand Goodheart Sep 2020 #48
Can't. PCIntern Sep 2020 #53
That's what happens when you steal all the money. leftyladyfrommo Sep 2020 #54
can't squeeze blood out of a turnip Dukkha Sep 2020 #56
Cancelling IA and OH because they think they're in the bag, NV and NH are lost to them greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #58

Bayard

(22,011 posts)
1. Well, well
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:49 AM
Sep 2020

Is this because he thinks he already has those states in the bag, or because he knows he's already lost them?

underpants

(182,628 posts)
13. He's low. They could be just waiting for a big buy
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:53 AM
Sep 2020

like when the NFL starts.

He could be relying on the free advertising that he gets from the media. Remember he said that he was in 2016 when he ran low before their convention.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
57. NRA isn't coming to rescue him, either. It has enough problems now.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 01:46 PM
Sep 2020


Mabe Parscale can sell one of his yachts, or a plane, to help out, but I imagine trump's shitcanning of him
might make him a bit reluctant.

C_U_L8R

(44,990 posts)
2. Bankrupt. Again.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:49 AM
Sep 2020

All those Republican suckers left wondering where their money went. Do you think they'll ever figure out the obvious?

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
7. Of course not. It means they have to send another round of donation to Trump
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:50 AM
Sep 2020

I don't know if I believe they are broke. I think Trump just wants another wave of donation to further funnel the money to himself.

Brother Buzz

(36,384 posts)
19. It's gonna piss those Republican suckers off bigly when they learn....
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:57 AM
Sep 2020

their donations were siphoned off to pay the orange anus' legal expenses.

renate

(13,776 posts)
50. I thought we the taxpayers were paying the DOJ to handle his legal expenses?
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 01:06 PM
Sep 2020

The donations are probably just being laundered into Trump's pocket.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
55. That's exactly what I am thinking.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 01:41 PM
Sep 2020

I am wondering if this whole bit about the campaign being broke is just another one of their dirty tricks to lure us into complacency.

drray23

(7,619 posts)
5. running out of money and giving up in states where Joe Biden is likely to win.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:49 AM
Sep 2020

They are at the point where they have to try to defend states like NC/GA/FL . If this continue, this bodes well for us.

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
8. They will still be seen on-line in those states...
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:51 AM
Sep 2020

Trump has invested heavily in Youtube and Facebook, which aren't so geographically aligned and are cheaper.

bedazzled

(1,760 posts)
27. Getting stupid cards in the mail in fl
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:04 PM
Sep 2020

Not as many as usual. MASSIVE amounts of phone calls tho. Registered as a republican. Long story ... moved to fl when bush was president and wanted to be sure to be able to vote. Isn't that sad? Should have changed it i guess.

awesomerwb1

(4,265 posts)
28. You should reflect that in your thread title
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:06 PM
Sep 2020

Some people in this thread are already assuming trump has either given up on those states or that the fix is in in those states.

awesomerwb1

(4,265 posts)
32. It does
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:12 PM
Sep 2020

Apparently a lot of people are missing that. Adding the word WEEKLY to the title shouldn't be too hard. Much less time than replying to posts like mine.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
10. Good! I won't be exposed to his ads/his face/his voice!
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:52 AM
Sep 2020

There aren't a whole bunch of fantastic happenings at this time, but this one is super fantastic, as Trump would say.

I get my kicks in small doses.

qwlauren35

(6,145 posts)
14. Are those the states
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:53 AM
Sep 2020

where the mail sorting machines were crushed????

If so, it's fixed, and he doesn't have to worry about it.

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
17. Winning FL, GA, MI, MN, NC, and WI would get them to 285 with 1 EV from Maine
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:55 AM
Sep 2020

Assuming they take OH and IA as well.

I think at least one of MN, WI, and MI are out of reach for them.

This election is all about NC. Whoever wins NC likely wins the entire thing.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
31. Really? I don't think Biden needs NC to win
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:09 PM
Sep 2020

If Biden gets PA, WI and he has a choice between MI, or AZ + NE2 or Maine2. None of those paths require NC.

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
34. Agree and maybe I should have put it another way.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:14 PM
Sep 2020

It's almost impossible for Biden to lose if he wins NC.

Cosmocat

(14,559 posts)
41. If he wins Ohio he will get 400 EVs
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:28 PM
Sep 2020

Florida or NC are more doable, and yeah would be a huge kick in the nuts to 45.

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
59. It isn't?
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 01:52 PM
Sep 2020

If Biden wins NC, Trump has to win All of FL, GA, MI, OH, and one of WI, MN, and AZ.

Realistically, MI looks really bad for Trump right now and MN and AZ aren't much better. If Biden gets NC, he only needs MI or 2 out of 3 of WI, MN, and AZ.

And if Biden wins FL, it is game over.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
18. so many questions
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:55 AM
Sep 2020

are they far ahead in those states and dont need ads?
are they far behind and have mailed it in?
are they low on funds?
is the fix in for voting there?

Someone ask Putin

sweetloukillbot

(10,972 posts)
24. They could figure IA and OH are in the bag
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:02 PM
Sep 2020

Those two haven't quite made toss-up yet, I don't think, they still lean R. But if he's still running ads in MN and WI, that says something. Surprised to see MI back in the ad column, I thought he pulled advertising there months ago.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
52. I got historical data and when you are incumbent and under 50% as trump is under 50 in both
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 01:33 PM
Sep 2020

states, thats is ALWAYS a sign of trouble from a historical data view

MissB

(15,803 posts)
21. Trying to lose but not by much
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:00 PM
Sep 2020

Or he’s trying to rake in more money for himself by acting broke, while still knowing he’s gonna lose.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
23. Spending money in Georgia and North Carolina? That's telling!
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:02 PM
Sep 2020

There's a reported cash shortage, and they decide to up spending in two usually solid GOP states? They must feel like they are in some deep shit right now! Makes me feel giddy to think about it!

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
35. I'm guessing he cancelled IA and OH because he feels he doesn't need to advertise there as much
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:20 PM
Sep 2020

Those states are looking a little more solid for him than they did a few weeks ago.

Pulling out of NV and NH makes sense also, because as we learned the hard way in 2016, it's usually a bad idea to try to expand a map without protecting the states your party previously won.

Pulling out of AZ and PA are curious moves. Arizona could mean he's giving up on it, like Obama did with a couple of the states he won in 2008 but didn't need for reelection in 2012. But Obama's 2008 electoral college margin was MUCH bigger than Trump's 2016 margin, so this seems risky.

I am really surprised about PA. That state looks closer than ever and sadly, after spending the weekend driving through the state to Western PA, I think Trump is definitely still competitive there. The areas we visited were pretty Republican, but given how unpopular he is in general I was surprised to see as many Trump signs as I did. The ratio of Trump:Biden signs I saw was at least 10:1, maybe even 15:1.

Cosmocat

(14,559 posts)
45. Yeah
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:31 PM
Sep 2020

Going after McCain so much is to Arizona what doing after Dingle in Michigan, big self inflicted wounds.

But, PA is big, and living here agree he has a shot and should go full on.

Greybnk48

(10,162 posts)
46. His ads in Wisco are often and really nasty.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:33 PM
Sep 2020

I can't wait until he gives up here. His numbers have been static for weeks.

Goodheart

(5,308 posts)
48. I don't understand
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:38 PM
Sep 2020

Why wouldn't trump pull a trump by buying the ads on credit and then later stiffing them?

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
56. can't squeeze blood out of a turnip
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 01:45 PM
Sep 2020

Obviously you can't buy air time from a war chest that's being siphoned an an industrial rate by a family of crooks.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
58. Cancelling IA and OH because they think they're in the bag, NV and NH are lost to them
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 01:48 PM
Sep 2020

Hard to tell what to make of AZ and PA.

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