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BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:08 AM Sep 2020

DU Poll: Will all the new info in 3 new books change anything?

Cohen, Woodward and Strzok...3 books with new info.
All of this news is coming out the same week but will it make a difference or influence any GOP politicians or the cult/base????? Is it too late?


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No
16 (52%)
Yes
10 (32%)
Maybe
5 (16%)
No opinion at this time
0 (0%)
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DU Poll: Will all the new info in 3 new books change anything? (Original Post) BigmanPigman Sep 2020 OP
if they can change a few hundred thousand minds that would be fine nt msongs Sep 2020 #1
I say yes, but I don't think hard core cultists will change. But screw them. Vivienne235729 Sep 2020 #2
I voted no. But IcyPeas Sep 2020 #3
Robb is a dingbat. Coventina Sep 2020 #4
Kudzu, it's going places. peacefreak2.0 Sep 2020 #8
Lincoln Project claims the Atlantic article was the last straw for a lot of people mucifer Sep 2020 #5
I went with "Maybe"... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #6
It is not the peeling away that matters, it is the layering on. . . . Journeyman Sep 2020 #7
No Lunabell Sep 2020 #9
I said "Maybe"... electric_blue68 Sep 2020 #10
They see non-whites and allies of equality as the threat, when that's gone things will change uponit7771 Sep 2020 #11
all I think of is this statement, "I could kill someone on 5th ave" a kennedy Sep 2020 #12
The Atlantic article has already show in a poll to have affected the military vote Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #13
Hard core Magats will never leave MuseRider Sep 2020 #14
Maybe at the margins... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #15
It's cognitive inflexibility , and "in your face" defiance... Fyrefox Sep 2020 #16
For some, yes. Mike 03 Sep 2020 #17
The information and discussions will Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #18
Yes, it has moved the media off the protests and onto the pandemic Klaralven Sep 2020 #19
I'm pleased to see that there are more optimists than pessimists. NurseJackie Sep 2020 #20
Nope. It might pick off a few, but GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #21
As smarter people than me have pointed out: blogslut Sep 2020 #22
there are too many uninformed folks out there. peacebuzzard Sep 2020 #23
A son of a friend had been We are all going avebury Sep 2020 #24
I think it helps solidify the Trump cross over voters and pulls in some undecided voters Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #25

Vivienne235729

(3,377 posts)
2. I say yes, but I don't think hard core cultists will change. But screw them.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:23 AM
Sep 2020

we're not targeting them. It's all the other people that are "unsure". I don't think the cultists represent the majority. They are just vocal and peacocky.

Coventina

(27,064 posts)
4. Robb is a dingbat.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:25 AM
Sep 2020

The cult will not be moved.

There may be some movement around the very center of the electorate.

mucifer

(23,487 posts)
5. Lincoln Project claims the Atlantic article was the last straw for a lot of people
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:41 AM
Sep 2020

I hope they are right

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
6. I went with "Maybe"...
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:55 AM
Sep 2020

...because, although I doubt it will do much to affect True Believers, if it gets enough media play, it could well have an effect on those few "undecideds" still possibly leaning in Trump's direction because "until this virus came along, the economy was great." And it might even make a difference to those in his base who had a close family member die from COVID-19, but who was inclined to excuse Trump because "no one could have stopped it" and "he did the best he could with the information we had at the time."

Journeyman

(15,026 posts)
7. It is not the peeling away that matters, it is the layering on. . . .
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:55 AM
Sep 2020

Whether this influences his base is not the concern.

The better question is, will these revelations inspire more of those who don't like him to go to the polls.

electric_blue68

(14,818 posts)
10. I said "Maybe"...
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 03:18 AM
Sep 2020

I think it really might more some undecideds (hopefully enough!) Especially if they've been affected by covid19
In their circles/themselves.

Journey man also has a good point giving extra energy for all of us already outraged to one degree or another.

Thekaspervote

(32,710 posts)
13. The Atlantic article has already show in a poll to have affected the military vote
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 04:14 AM
Sep 2020

The books, each one alone, no, but as a continued onslaught of damning reports yes.
Having said that, I think the damage comes from dotard being constantly knocked off his narrative, forced to play defense...which is terrible at! His excuses become thinner and thinner, and then come the conspiracy theories..thugs on planes, men dressed in all black, served up in an interview to fox viewers just this past week.

Will it change his cult, maybe a few around the edges. But it will further harden the resolve of all Dems and any independents left to vote him out.

People are just plain sick of it!!

Enough is enough

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
14. Hard core Magats will never leave
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 05:24 AM
Sep 2020

but I do believe there are people on the edge who will be moved. Each little bit that comes out moves a few more. As long as "fake news" is the rally for them we will have those that will not even believe what they hear with their own ears. This truly is cultish. I cannot think of anyone I have ever supported that could not lose me as a voter if shit like this was going down. It is terrifying. Lets hope there is a lot more that can be released or will be released. We need to peel off as many as possible, it must be a land slide.

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
15. Maybe at the margins...
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 05:31 AM
Sep 2020

but Trump can't afford to have a few million more folks come out and vote for Biden.

Fyrefox

(300 posts)
16. It's cognitive inflexibility , and "in your face" defiance...
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 05:47 AM
Sep 2020

Trump's base detests science, education, and opinions outside of their own. They are too far gone to be amenable to evidence and reason, and are completely ego-invested in Trump. Even if they're voted out, they'll claim the election was "stolen" or "rigged."

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
17. For some, yes.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 05:52 AM
Sep 2020

Also, there's the cumulative impact to think about.

Fire and Fury by itself didn't get Trump removed, nor did any other single book (not even the Mueller Report) but when you have twelve, fifteen, twenty books I think it seeps into the national consciousness.

And that is also helped by the writers appearing on TV. The "book tour" aspect is an important part.

Most people won't have time for Peter Strzok's book, but they'll see him on TV saying exactly what Comey, Mattis and so many others are saying. I do think, in the aggregate, it can make a difference.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
18. The information and discussions will
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 06:17 AM
Sep 2020

Fill airtime between ads for drugs we never knew we needed on the cable infotainment channels. That is probably about the most that will take place.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
21. Nope. It might pick off a few, but
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 07:44 AM
Sep 2020

the only thing that will change the minds of his "supporters" is a mass cult deprogramming. They love the shit sandwiches he feeds them. They think it's filiet mignon and caviar, and nobody can tell them otherwise.

blogslut

(37,985 posts)
22. As smarter people than me have pointed out:
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 07:47 AM
Sep 2020

The books will probably not affect his base. However, his base is not large enough to re-elect him. His poll numbers have stayed basically the same for 3 and-a-half years. He is not gaining voters.

The hope is the revelations of these books (along with every other horrible thing) will bring voters to the polls to get rid of him.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
24. A son of a friend had been We are all going
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 07:59 AM
Sep 2020

to die of Covid yet told his Mom yesterday that Trump is the greatest president we have ever had.

And he has a college education. You can't fix stupid.

Only a massive turn out the vote for Biden has any chance of changing anything.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
25. I think it helps solidify the Trump cross over voters and pulls in some undecided voters
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:29 AM
Sep 2020

But those who are driving around with a Confederate flag and a Trump flag, it won't change a thing. They have sold their soul to Trump Inc.

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