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Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:45 PM Sep 2020

Grrrr. I knew it. Reinoehl was executed. New WAPO story.

[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/10/reinoehl-portland-antifa-killing-police/|

Remember. Trump tweeted a request to take him out.

Next day, he was killed with as many as fifty bullets. And Barr issued a statement.


By
Tim Elfrink
September 10, 2020 at 1:14 a.m. PDT


When police last week surrounded Michael Forest Reinoehl, a self-described anti-fascist suspected of fatally shooting a member of a far-right group in Portland, Ore., the wanted man wasn’t obviously armed, a witness to the scene said Wednesday.

In fact, according to Nate Dinguss, Reinoehl was clutching a cellphone and eating a gummy worm as he walked to his car outside an apartment complex in Lacey, Wash. That’s when officers opened fire without first announcing themselves or trying to arrest him, Dinguss, a 39-year-old who lives in the apartment complex, said in a statement shared with The Washington Post.

Dinguss’s account of the Sept. 3 fatal shooting, first reported by the Oregonian, contradicts details offered by federal authorities, who said Reinoehl, 48, pulled a gun as members of a fugitive task force tried to arrest him. Two other witnesses also told the Olympian they had seen Reinoehl fire a weapon at police.

If Reinoehl did pull a gun -- or was seen reaching for a weapon -- police wouldn’t have needed to warn him before opening fire.

Dinguss, whose attorney described him as an ordained minister, said he fears reprisals from far-right groups and police for describing what he saw unfolding outside his apartment.

“We are very concerned for our client’s safety for speaking out, both from the fascist right, and retaliation by law enforcement,” said Luke Laughlin, his attorney, in a statement.

Suspect in Portland slaying killed when authorities moved to arrest him

Reinoehl’s case unfolded against a national backdrop of escalating violence as protesters and far-left groups clashed with armed members of self-described militias and far-right organizations in Wisconsin, Oregon and elsewhere.

Prosecutors last week charged Reinoehl with fatally shooting Aaron J. Danielson, 39, on Aug. 29 after supporters of President Trump clashed with counterprotesters in downtown Portland. In an interview with Vice News last week, Reinoehl suggested the shooting was self-defense and said he believed Danielson, a member of the far-right Patriot Prayer group, was threatening him and a friend.

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As national politicians, including Trump, demanded Reinoehl be swiftly arrested, officers in the Pacific Northwest Violent Offender Task Force tracked him to Lacey, about 120 miles north of Portland.

There are few official details about what happened next. At least four members of the task force, which included officers from a variety of local agencies, fired dozens of times at Reinoehl; the U.S. Marshals Service later said he had a handgun, but it wasn’t clear whether he had ever fired it at police.

Dinguss said he never saw Reinoehl pull out a gun.

He said he watched as two unmarked police vehicles converged on Reinoehl as he walked to his car, holding his phone and chewing on a piece of candy. The officers never audibly identified themselves and didn’t try to arrest Reinoehl, Dinguss said.


Instead, he said they immediately began firing. When Reinoehl heard the gunfire, he ducked behind his car, which was pinned in by the law enforcement vehicles; he never tried to get inside, Dinguss said, and he never saw him reaching for a weapon. Dinguss said he watched police unleash rapid-fire rounds at Reinoehl, once pausing to shout “Stop!” before resuming their fire.

Dinguss added officers waited “multiple minutes” before rendering medical aid to Reinoehl, who died at the scene from several gunshot wounds.

The Thurston County Sheriff’s Office, which is investigating Reinoehl’s death, didn’t immediately return a message about Dinguss’s account; a spokesman for the Marshals declined to comment, citing the ongoing investigation.

Laughlin called for the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office to reassign their investigation, alleging the agency has a conflict of interest since it procured the search warrants against Reinoehl.

“A completely independent agency with no involvement in the events must conduct the investigation,” Laughlin said. “However, the level of involvement of TCSO in the criminal investigation of Reinoehl is questionable."

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Grrrr. I knew it. Reinoehl was executed. New WAPO story. (Original Post) Grasswire2 Sep 2020 OP
Well, come on! Right wing Hitler-youth wannabe Kyle Rittenhouse was also mowed down-- dawg day Sep 2020 #1
yeah, and Reinoehl had said he acted in self defense that night in Portland. Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #3
That sums it up perfectly Evolve Dammit Sep 2020 #13
Horrifying. Reinoehl deserved a court trial. crickets Sep 2020 #2
earlier thread here Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #4
K&R 2naSalit Sep 2020 #5
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Sep 2020 #6
K & R malaise Sep 2020 #7
Trump is a murderer Hekate Sep 2020 #8
That's what mob bosses do... Illumination Sep 2020 #12
+++ agree. nt iluvtennis Sep 2020 #17
Serial killers are petty criminals compared to him and other sociopath demagogues DSandra Sep 2020 #23
Yes, he is now world-class & in some exalted company. nt Hekate Sep 2020 #27
And no body cams, right? Typical MO when you intend to commit murder. Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #9
I think perpetrated by US marshals PNW-Dem Sep 2020 #26
Didn't the administration just take action against The Hague? SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2020 #10
yup. SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2020 #11
Shot upwards of 50 times???????? DENVERPOPS Sep 2020 #14
An autopsy would prove or disprove that. oldsoftie Sep 2020 #21
I love how these "news" sources always define folks who have an issue with Fascism LiberalLovinLug Sep 2020 #15
Great point. nt iluvtennis Sep 2020 #18
On-going war against the left. Dissent will not be tolerated. rwsanders Sep 2020 #16
So Hitler was a moderate Republican like Dwight Eisenhower. magicarpet Sep 2020 #19
They got all Trumped up and assassinated him. dchill Sep 2020 #20
Video shows he stalked Danielson & it was not a self defense shooting. oldsoftie Sep 2020 #22
His guilt or innocence was never adjudicated. Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #25
No, but his status to many people of him being a hero is incorrect. oldsoftie Sep 2020 #28
irrelevant in terms of the rule of law Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #30
Who of name, note, or weight is labeling him a hero as you allege? LanternWaste Sep 2020 #32
We recently learned that the Trump campaign is paying his former bodyguard $500,000 a year. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #24
This was an execution MustLoveBeagles Sep 2020 #29
exactly nt Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #31

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. Well, come on! Right wing Hitler-youth wannabe Kyle Rittenhouse was also mowed down--
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:51 PM
Sep 2020

Oh, right. The police let him walk away with his gun from three bodies and go to his car and go home, where he was much later gently taken into custody, and then a very nice judge stayed his extradition to that mean Kenosha County.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
3. yeah, and Reinoehl had said he acted in self defense that night in Portland.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:58 PM
Sep 2020

But he was executed by firing squad.

crickets

(25,960 posts)
2. Horrifying. Reinoehl deserved a court trial.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:58 PM
Sep 2020

Then the nation would have heard all about what was really going on in Portland at the time, and we can't have that.

PNW-Dem

(244 posts)
26. I think perpetrated by US marshals
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 04:48 PM
Sep 2020

I don't think they wear body cams. Probably won't know the identities of the shooters. Probably flew in from out of town. What's the recourse?

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
10. Didn't the administration just take action against The Hague?
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:56 PM
Sep 2020

Where can we go with this info? We have no more safeguards for our democtratic experiment.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
15. I love how these "news" sources always define folks who have an issue with Fascism
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 03:53 PM
Sep 2020

ie.. Anti-Fascists
ie. AntiFa

as a "far left group"

I wonder if these guys would consider themselves "far left"?

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
19. So Hitler was a moderate Republican like Dwight Eisenhower.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 04:23 PM
Sep 2020

Must have been,... if anti-Fascist is a far left-wing radical anarchist terrorist.

WTF !

oldsoftie

(12,525 posts)
22. Video shows he stalked Danielson & it was not a self defense shooting.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 04:42 PM
Sep 2020

THIS shooting should have had at least SOMEONE with a damn body camera on. If not, some major investigations need to be done.
But by WHO? Certainly not the DOJ!

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
25. His guilt or innocence was never adjudicated.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 04:48 PM
Sep 2020

And has no bearing on whether or not he was summarily executed on order of the president.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
30. irrelevant in terms of the rule of law
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:56 PM
Sep 2020

The president sent a tweet instructing that he be killed.

He was. Only on the request of the president; no other due process afforded him.

That's what dictators of banana republics do.

Lonestarblue

(9,963 posts)
24. We recently learned that the Trump campaign is paying his former bodyguard $500,000 a year.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 04:48 PM
Sep 2020

For what? Remember when Stormy Daniels said he threatened her? Perhaps the bodyguard has been busy recruiting white nationals to attack BLM protesters or working with feds to stir up problems so Trump can bray about law and order.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,587 posts)
29. This was an execution
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:46 PM
Sep 2020

The lesson here is that a far right killer gets kid glove treatment and possible far left killer is pumped full of lead. I don't know if what Michael Forest Reinoehit did was self defense or not. They should've arrested him and given him his day in court. If he was found guilty they could've locked his ass up. Double standards.

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