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Not since the Civil Warwhen leaders responsible for the enslavement and brutalization of millions of Americans sought to destroy the United States and took military action that resulted in the violent deaths of hundreds of thousands of citizenshas a group of politicians so profoundly betrayed the republic. And this bandDonald Trump and GOP officialshas done so on two fronts simultaneously. They have failed to respond effectively to a pair of immense threats: a pandemic that has claimed the lives of close to 200,000 Americans, and a foreign attack on the political foundation of the country. What exacerbates this double tragedy is that Trump and his Republican supporters have done so purposefully. This has been no accident or act of unintentional incompetence. In each case, they sacrificed the public interestincluding the well-being and the lives of millions of Americansto serve their own interests. Trump and his crew have forsaken the United States of America.
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lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)ananda
(28,783 posts)Especially since he got the post through
foreign interference and voter suppression,
while actually losing the popular vote.
DemUnleashed
(633 posts)He wants to call it the Chinavirus but the media needs to be calling it the Trumpvirus!
The virus may have originated in China but it's not China's fault we have almost 200,000 deaths! That's on Trump!!
On top of what Ben Gleib posted, Trump called it a hoax, cut funding to the CDC, got rid of the pandemic playbooks left for him by Obama and Bush, removed experts placed in China to look for these kinds of viruses, removed Obama's US Pandemic Response Team, didn't shore up PPE back in January, didn't implement contact tracing back in January, didn't isolate sick people back in January, and even his "no flights from China" was a failure...40,000 non-foreign nationals still entered AFTER that ban!
The list goes on and on!!!
crickets
(25,896 posts)Concise, thorough, and damning.
That article is a must read.
malaise
(267,828 posts)Escurumbele
(3,340 posts)Otherwise they would have seen through trump many years ago.
Blame it on trump and the GOP, but those who support him are as guilty. Without the ignorant this would not happen.
The system needs to change, there has to be a push to educate the country, to teach kids civics, to put emphasis in the arts teach them to think and to be analytical, to question. We need kids to go back to reading books, to get away from their Smartphones that consume 1/2 their lives today, they need to become critical citizens, to learn to spot a con when they see one.
It is not by coincidence that republicans have fought so hard to diminish education in the USA, it is much easier to control the "uneducated" (like trump called them as his favorite people) than to do so with people who can think independently.
Dustlawyer
(10,493 posts)and Trump. They have been programming this cult for the last 2-3 decades. This is why Trump never sees a drop in support from his core base. They have been taught to ignore anything that does not agree with their programming.
This is going to be a continuing issue. Getting rid of trump will not get rid of the harcore RW base, cultivated from the constant lies spewed by Fox and RW hate radio. Along with all of the other things that need to be dealt with, the propaganda problem must be addressed.
certainot
(9,090 posts)he wasn't supposed to
putin's been using Rw radio/limbaugh since 2008 at least (Manafort, Palin, see below), and trump and limbaugh coordinate messaging closely - that leads all rw radio. limbaugh was calling it a hoax the same time as trump and kept calling it that for weeks.
talk radio is very common in all that is trump, russsia, covid - the COVID disaster is by design, like using ebola as their october surprise in 2014 to get 9 senate and 11 congressional seats
The Russians that Mueller charged visited particular states getting material to help them target particular Dem candidates. Unlike Fox, talk radio stations allow local/state targeting. There's nothing better for swiftboating Democrats - they don't even know they're being swiftboated until it's too late because they never listen to it. and a caller can say anything to start a rumor. And the hosts can chew on lies for weeks.
In 2014
I listened to thousands of hours of talk radio, and he was getting reports from me, Sam Nunberg recalled.
Why would cheapskate Trump pay for anyone to listen to 1000s of hours of talk radio unless someone told him it was important? If he didnt pay for it directly from Trump funds, how did he pay for it?
Its amazing no one has asked Nunberg about this considering how many times hes been on MSNBC.
Why wouldnt Trump pay friend Limbaugh for his help in the primaries versus GOP establishment?
It wouldnt be Trumps style not to enlist his friend and neighbor Limbaugh in helping him beat Rubio and Bush in the primaries. Limbaugh tried to look objective but was always talking about Trump, making excuses for him, attacking his critics, and dissing Bush and Rubio on immigration.
Roger Stone has used talk radio since the 2000 election and he and Trump were using Russian help - why wouldnt it be coordinated with Limbaugh and Hannity?
Limbaugh provides sanitized transcripts of his show to help keep other talk radio hosts and GOP politicians and media on the same page so its unlikely Nunberg listened to a lot of Limbaugh unless they were really stupid. So who were they studying and in what states?
Most of the national talkers follow the Limbaugh lead in interpreting news and events. The most logical reason for listening to that much talk radio might be to get a flavor of issues talked about in different states.
In a Washington Post piece a Russian talked about working for a trolling operation in late 2014.You got a list of topics to write about.
There is no way the Kremlin would go through all this trouble without doing their homework. They wouldnt rely on Russian trolls to make stuff up.
Why wouldnt the Kremlin piggyback years of talk radio repetition?
Anyone familiar with Republican talk radio repetition would recognize significant overlap with Russian troll memes.
Talk radio has been around longer than social media and is a classic propaganda medium with various advantages over TV and other media. Why wouldnt they be calling shows like the GOP think tanks do? Why not figure out which hosts read emails from listeners?
All they had to do was figure out how to feed Limbaugh, whether he knew or not, and they could control a lot of messaging on 1500 radio stations. Are any of his major sources on that list?
Does Putin have kompromat on Limbaugh?
Is there any payola with Russian laundered money going on? Didnt Hannitys relationship with Cohen involve real estate?
Breitbart got started in about 2007, about the time Limbaugh started breaking with the establishment GOP. Did the Kremlin take over the Breitbart blog as it started competing with MIC- friendly Drudge as a conduit to talk radio? Hello, Steve Bannon?
2008 Palin
Manafort was McCain campaign cochair. McCain was thinking about Pawlenty and even Lieberman. Limbaugh wouldnt support McCain, a looming disaster for the GOP convention. Minutes before the start of the Limbaugh show on the Friday before the GOP convention McCain publicly chose Palin and Limbaugh used the announcement to finally support McCain. Did he have prior knowledge of it? At that time Alaska Gov Palin was being courted by Russians re oil and gas.
Tea Party
The Koch brothers gave them bus passes but talk radio and Fox played a big part giving them talking points, publicizing them, and coordinating them. Did the Kremlin use talk radio to help coordinate Tea Party and Republican obstruction and attacks during the Obama administration?
2009 Climategate from Russian-hacked emails
In 2009 Limbaugh started the Climategate hoax based on Russian-hacked emails, a development timed to sabotage Obama at the Copenhagen climate talks. Every year we delay on global warming is worth billions to Putin, not just the Kochs.
2011 Defaulting on the Debt
In 2011 Limbaugh spent 2 months trying to get Republicans to force the US to default, something Putin would enjoy more that any US billionaire.
2012 Benghazi
Much of the Trump/Russian-related material used in trolling re Hillary Clinton came out of the 2012 Benghazi embassy attack. Talk radio did the heavy lifting repetition re emails, etc. that ties into all this crap were dealing with now.
One of the lies talk radio spread required head of PR for the US marines to make a public rebuttal. It was all over national and local talk radio that Obama and Clinton had prohibited US marines guarding US embassies from carrying live ammo. They were basically encouraging attacks on US embassies. Did that come from the Drudge report, Breitbart, or the Russians?
The entire Hillary email issue related to her using a private server she knew republicans would try to get her private emails and leak selected items to 1500 radio stations.
Kremlin callers?
Calls to national talkers can reach millions.
Since Republican radio has been shown to use paid callers, why not Kremlin callers instead of Heritage Foundation callers? Automated call screening software might be programmed to advance calls from GOP think tanks. That might be easy to hack but it wouldnt be a surprise to find out that a Russian company makes good call screening software at a great price ..
Callers play an important part in keeping local talk radio hosts in line with Limbaugh, prompting topics, and suggesting lies, scandals, and violence.
Kremlin emailers?
When the shutdown started I heard the local blowhard read an email from a listener who cheered the shutdown, saying government workers were lazy scammers.
How many other local blowhards in states all over the country read the same email, and did it come from the White House, a GOP think tank, or maybe even the Kremlin?
That is the problem of ignoring RW radio.
aggiesal
(8,864 posts)The Republican Echo Chamber.
Faux & Lumbutt lead the way.
They would start a message meme, and all their local minions would echo that message meme.
certainot
(9,090 posts)aggiesal
(8,864 posts)on multiple levels!
ExtraGriz
(488 posts)Trump: "I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down. Yes, because I don't want to create a panic,"
WTF..."I Still like playing it down." ???
He's committing genocide on the American people. He does not want people to wear masks, has rallies with no masks or social distancing (they removed stickers from chairs which was placed by to brag about crowd size, herd mentality, knew that it was airborned and deadly, demanding schools be opened knowing children will be infected, lies about how many are infected and died or is dying, no PPE for hospitals, sent our PPE supplies to China, discarded Obama's pandemic plan, wants people to inject bleach/disinfectants.... and so much more.
190,000 deaths...
These are not coincidences
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Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. These acts fall into five categories:
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
There are a number of other serious, violent crimes that do not fall under the specific definition of genocide. They include crimes against humanity, war crimes, ethnic cleansing, and mass killing.
aggiesal
(8,864 posts)and I paraphrase,
Anything done in Washington DC, was done because someone wanted it done that way.
Nothing happens by accident.
Blue Owl
(49,934 posts)n/t
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)against the United States of America.