DUers need to explain to me how you can lie and lead to almost 200,000 deaths

[malaise]

and still be allowed to run for the presidency - this is absolute madness.

Every ReTHUG should be locked up with him. This cannot be.

[Takket]

1. my attempt at an explaination:

[malaise]

4. What may be almost as bad is M$Greedia carrying on as if this

is just another horse race.

An entire way of life has been destroyed by a monster and his enablers

[NRaleighLiberal]

7. and THAT, my friend, is the explanation

That, plus the mass brainwashing that goes on in hate radio and hate TV.

[dewsgirl]

8. Exactly this.

[Edwcraig]

2. RACISM SEXISM ABORTION

It is not about Trump although he is all of those things. 85% + of Republicans support him.

[Tree-Hugger]

3. Because

He hates the same people as his base. That's all that matters.

[Nevilledog]

5. I can't explain it because I'm a sentient being.

[dalton99a]

6. "It's ok that he lies, because we already know that's what he does"

"but he is a good president"

Actually heard on talk radio a few days ago

[malaise]

10. Nearly 200,000 dead and over 6 million infected

because of his lies an dhe's a good president?
They really drank the Kool-aid

[dalton99a]

13. At this point it is useless to try and reason with them

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Democrats should focus on turnout and motivating the base

[Solly Mack]

9. They'll call it "policy" and say you can't criminalize "policy" "differences".

Same bullshit they did with torture.

As in: Trump didn't lie. He chose a "policy" of de-escalation. Working behind the scenes to mitigate the pandemic while presenting a public face that would not alarm the population or influence the markets.


Of course the above example of a possible future comment is complete bullshit.

Yeah, yeah. I could do this for a living. I know. I choose integrity, honesty, and decency instead. I choose my humanity.

[malaise]

11. Bush violated international treaties

The monsters have taken over

[Solly Mack]

18. He violated US law as well. But, in the end, that became a big ole "So, what?" (to some)

The same will be done with Trump.

They'll call it policy. It will be framed as "critics" of Trump's response say he lied. His "critics" are criminalizing politics. You can't criminalize "policy". Yada, yada, yada.

The Convention Against Torture entered into US Code in 1994. Albeit with some reservations. Still, torture was illegal before Bush took office. It remained illegal the entire time he was in office. Until it was renamed enhanced interrogation techniques and later called "policy differences". Then, somehow, torture wasn't torture anymore. USA! USA! USA!

Bush had Yoo.

Trump has Yoo. His has most of the same Republicans in Congress who excused torture. His base is made up of Americans who cheered torture. Trump has Bill Barr, so he doesn't need all the DOJ worker-thugs Bush had.

Those monsters have always been there. Same waiting in the wings for their return. Some simply waiting for their moment to strike hard. But they are always there.

Currently, they are holding a lot of power. They also have the arrogance to push that power beyond what many would term normal. The wave of ignorance, arrogance, and naked brutality is crushing America. But that wave didn't start with Trump.

We knew a Trump-like figure was coming once Bush and the rest got away with their crimes. Doesn't mean we deserve what is happening. Does mean that if we are given another chance to stop the onslaught, we should.

[malaise]

19. No No No

This cannot happen

[Solly Mack]

20. I agree. But I thought the same before. That it can't be allowed to happen.

I'm hoping it's different this time.

But, the "policy differences", or along those lines, is the route they'll take given the chance.

[malaise]

21. Privilege based on race, wealth or position destroys

the rule of law

[Solly Mack]

23. It does indeed.

[LisaL]

12. I don't have an explanation for anybody wanting to vote for Trump.

NT

[betsuni]

14. Because Republicans run against the government and even when they're in charge they're not

really the government. Liberals are, somehow, like the myth of a liberal media.

[malaise]

15. That is so true

How can people vote for anti-government people to run government?
All they do is loot government

[Locutusofborg]

16. Its very easy to explain

Trump says "I didn't want to panic the American people." Trump supporters say: Thank you for not panicking us, Mr. President."

[stillcool]

17. I think it's that 'law' thing...

Apparently you can do pretty much anything if you write the laws, enforce the laws, and judge the laws accordingly.

[malaise]

22. or if said laws don't apply to you

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

24. This is DU. Not RU.

It's Republicans that need to explain this.

[malaise]

25. LOL I never post there