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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI again ask that those who post David Packman clips please LABEL them. IMHO, the meager
info they contain is never worth having to endure the manner of presentation.
I ALWAYS feel "Rick-Rolled" when I click on one of those and I ALWAYS click off in disgust.
hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)Baltimike
(4,143 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)Who on earth wants eight minutes of Packman in return for 90 seconds or so of video?
TheRickles
(2,057 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)The thread titles under someone not named David Packman are clickbait; if you knew it was him most people wouldnt bother.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)Between him and Chris Hedges this place entertains a lot of agitprop.
Maraya1969
(22,478 posts)forward past the talking head.
Sympthsical
(9,072 posts)A lot of content creators on YouTube are more rewarded if they can streeeeeeetch things out to ten minutes or more. It creates for so much fluff and talking around the point. (Don't forget to like and subscribe!)
I have a lot of different creators on a lot of different subjects in my subscriptions, but as soon as they start falling into the talk around trap, I unsubscribe. It's a shame. If it takes you six minutes to say your piece, take six minutes, man. I have things to do, too.
Maraya1969
(22,478 posts)going to comment more; even if I barely watch the video because I have skipped though most of it.
Maraya1969
(22,478 posts)YouTubers make their videos a minimum of 10 minutes to get an additional ad break in the middle of the video.
Botany
(70,490 posts)30 seconds of a clip that is mentioned in the post vs 10 minutes of Packman?
Fla Dem
(23,650 posts)I do it with all these youtube pundits if they have a clip I want to see.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)Polly Hennessey
(6,793 posts)As soon as Packman appears, I leave. The man talks endlessly.
tblue37
(65,328 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)but posters are free to post what they want as long as they don't break the TOS.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)to let us know that an OP is just a conduit to a kernel of relevance following a Packman website promo and several minutes of "ain't I cool" commentary.
RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)There is nothing I can do about it except move on.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)Pobeka
(4,999 posts)In particular I won't click on a Trump tweet link, I refuse to up that egomaniac's click count. I wish posters would either give us an image of the tweet or cut 'n paste the text in the OP.
Sympthsical
(9,072 posts)So many posts are just copies and pastes of a random Twitter account. Half the time, it's just a sentence or two. I don't get why that requires an entire post unto itself. There's usually very little content in it. Feels like people are just running up post counts or something. I read things on Reddit I like all the time. I wouldn't drag every post I like from there over here.
I don't get why it's a thing. But, like you, I just skip immediately.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)I don't need that much commentary when the actual clip is pretty self-explanatory. Packman's comments add nothing of significance. I get more than enough commentary from MSNBC.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)But it is a minor nuisance.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)but like Atticus said, I often feel "Rick-rolled".
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)MindHowYouGo
(36 posts)Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)tavernier
(12,377 posts)Guess I didnt miss anything.
Owl
(3,641 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)And one has to watch several minutes to get to the point of the subject line.
I now recognize them before I click on them, and simply don't.
NNadir
(33,512 posts)DFW
(54,349 posts)Although if he's at all similar to TYT, that's enough of a turn-off for me.
IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)OP just wants the video clips to be labeled as such. I'm wary of clickbait Youtube videos that try to hide what they are. So a DUer would think a video is going to show something, or maybe a news clip or whatever, but it turns out to be David Pakman talking about it. It's similar for Egberto Willies and other liberal talk show clips.
NNadir
(33,512 posts)...I just hit the "back" key. It only takes a second
There are a lot of self declared internet "liberal" "pundits" with whom I disagree, notably that Cenk person.
Here and there, I'll watch one who appears to be amusing and witty, but in general, no, we have the "back" key to simply address our tastes and views.
irisblue
(32,968 posts)betsuni
(25,467 posts)Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)The substantive portion is almost always available elsewhere. I don't think it's to much to ask to label posts like this.
pazzyanne
(6,547 posts)Referring to this as "Rick-rolled" is appropos.
packman
(16,296 posts)Stop
TY
keithbvadu2
(36,775 posts)Homer on a 'per minute' call.
Then he calls a flat rate advice line and the voice speaks like lightning/click.
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,755 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)The bait looks interesting (ie: something outrageous a public official said) and in the 10-minute video, it's a full 7 minutes of Packman droning on and on and on (so many words to say so little) and a 30-second clip of whatever it was he was talking about... and a two minute ad for the sponsor.
It's total SPAM.
Alberto's thumbnails make it look as though it's a genuine MSNBC or CNN clip... but when you click on it, it's not what was shown. Instead it's the Alberto show with more talk-talk-talk and perhaps 15-seconds of CNN or MSNBC's content... then more talk-talk-talk.
ABSOLUTELY, it's clickbait. It's cheap and it's deceptive and it's dishonest.
These youtube businesses know what they're doing. They PURPOSELY CHOOSE THE DECEPTIVE THUMBNAIL IMAGE to make it appear as though the content is actually from CNN or MNSBC or CSPAN. But as soon as you click, you get Rick-Rolled.
Gotcha again!
usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)Cozmo
(1,402 posts)You can usually see the initials TDPS within the icon
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Alberto Willis does the same thing. Deceptive click-bait thumbnails... but the video shown is NOT what it appears to be.
Obviously they get paid (and ranked higher) for every click... whether it's deceptive or not. Then Youtube takes that data and their AI uses the number of clicks to determine that they should recommend it to others.
People who use deceptive thumbnails are tricking the viewers and they are deceiving Youtube.
It's a total scam.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)It was a fad here some years back....
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)TheFarseer
(9,322 posts)Who are good DUers supposed to listen to for news commentary? I ask because most people will crap on whoever anyone mentions.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)Apparently, all left leaning pundits are bad. Wonder how many posts are from Russian bots.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)far more superior to his!...
liberalla
(9,238 posts)he's got and is trying to 'report'. I always regret the time spent waiting for him to get to the point. I exit the clip/post immediately.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)And if the thumbnail image is particularly deceptive (ie: looking like a genuine MSNBC or CNN or CSPAN clip) then I'll also report it to youtube as being a deceptive clickbait video.
Stainless
(718 posts)FStv is the best unbiased news source in America IMHO.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)BadGimp
(4,015 posts)I REFUSE to Label whatever is it that you feel needs to be Labeled, no matter how you insist it is Labeled.