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marmar

(77,066 posts)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:42 PM Sep 2020

Scientists baffled by orcas ramming sailing boats near Spain and Portugal




(Guardian UK) Scientists have been left baffled by incidents of orcas ramming sailing boats along the Spanish and Portuguese coasts.

In the last two months, from southern to northern Spain, sailors have sent distress calls after worrying encounters. Two boats lost part of their rudders, at least one crew member suffered bruising from the impact of the ramming, and several boats sustained serious damage.

The latest incident occurred on Friday afternoon just off A Coruña, on the northern coast of Spain. Halcyon Yachts was taking a 36ft boat to the UK when an orca rammed its stern at least 15 times, according to Pete Green, the company’s managing director. The boat lost steering and was towed into port to assess damage.

Around the same time there were radio warnings of orca sightings 70 miles south, at Vigo, near the site of at least two recent collisions. On 30 August, a French-flagged vessel radioed the coastguard to say it was “under attack” from killer whales. Later that day, a Spanish naval yacht, Mirfak, lost part of its rudder after an encounter with orcas under the stern. ..........(more)

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/13/killer-whales-launch-orchestrated-attacks-on-sailing-boats




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Scientists baffled by orcas ramming sailing boats near Spain and Portugal (Original Post) marmar Sep 2020 OP
Were the boaters listening to a Trump speech? LiberalFighter Sep 2020 #1
Payback? Karma? HAB911 Sep 2020 #2
sounds like it rockfordfile Sep 2020 #17
Weird ffr Sep 2020 #3
Not just overpopulation malaise Sep 2020 #4
+1 2naSalit Sep 2020 #6
We are not monsters Loki Liesmith Sep 2020 #11
i.e., monsters CatWoman Sep 2020 #21
Sick of our garbage, pollution and plastic Golden Raisin Sep 2020 #5
Sick and tired of boats and the people in them. 2naSalit Sep 2020 #7
I guarantee they don't know that and don't care. Loki Liesmith Sep 2020 #12
Are they hearing sonar there? MoonRiver Sep 2020 #8
My guess is it's something like that Loki Liesmith Sep 2020 #13
thus proving that science education beats the creativity out of too many scientists. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #9
Lolwut Loki Liesmith Sep 2020 #14
well, then you are missing half the fun. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #15
Ahhh Shades of Moby Dick..... Take THAT you plastic POS!!!! mitch96 Sep 2020 #10
Or shades of the Essex Brother Buzz Sep 2020 #18
They've had it with humans spanone Sep 2020 #16
The sailing community will tell you it's because sailboats don't make noise Brother Buzz Sep 2020 #19
Not new to anyone who read "Survive the Savage Sea" EX500rider Sep 2020 #20
Mother Nature is Angry DSandra Sep 2020 #22
Orcas are conscious beings sanatanadharma Sep 2020 #23

ffr

(22,668 posts)
3. Weird
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:50 PM
Sep 2020

Even wildlife is fed up with human overpopulation. Their already losing the battle. I suppose some of the stronger ones have decided they might as well go down with a fight.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
11. We are not monsters
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:12 PM
Sep 2020

We’re just the most powerful force this planet has ever seen. Our instincts are just he same as every other mammalian species. We’re just better at getting what we want.

2naSalit

(86,508 posts)
7. Sick and tired of boats and the people in them.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:59 PM
Sep 2020

Can't say I blame them. And, maybe they will eventually get eat some if they manage to break up a boat. They are very intelligent beings, and they know who is to blame for all the trash in the oceans.

mitch96

(13,885 posts)
10. Ahhh Shades of Moby Dick..... Take THAT you plastic POS!!!!
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:13 PM
Sep 2020

This should be interesting to see why they are doing this... My guess is a territorial. They see the "big white thing" as something moving in on their piece of ocean...YMMV
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Brother Buzz

(36,409 posts)
18. Or shades of the Essex
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:40 PM
Sep 2020

Essex was an American whaler from Nantucket, Massachusetts, which was launched in 1799. In 1820, while at sea in the southern Pacific Ocean under the command of Captain George Pollard Jr., she was attacked and sunk by a sperm whale.

It was Herman Melville's inspiration for Moby-Dick



In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex by Nathaniel Philbrick is an excellent read



But so is this Smithsonian article:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-true-life-horror-that-inspired-moby-dick-17576/

Brother Buzz

(36,409 posts)
19. The sailing community will tell you it's because sailboats don't make noise
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:02 PM
Sep 2020

Sailboats have been striking whales forever because the don't make noise and are able to drive over them without warning. Cetaceans have long memories, I guess.

EX500rider

(10,835 posts)
20. Not new to anyone who read "Survive the Savage Sea"
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:06 PM
Sep 2020

In June 1972, the 43-foor schooner Lucette was attacked by killer whales and sank in 60 seconds.

sanatanadharma

(3,694 posts)
23. Orcas are conscious beings
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 05:29 PM
Sep 2020

Orcas are conscious beings. They have awareness, communication, knowledge of their (largely unknown to humans) world.

Orcas know which species is destroying their world.

Humans need the wisdom of the wild to tame the bestiality of humans.

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