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The NJ GOP are running ads in my area blaming Biden and tying him to Black Lives Matter and LeBron James, etc.
Did Biden say anything about the police ambush?
PSPS
(13,580 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Link to tweet
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Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
This cold-blooded shooting is unconscionable and the perpetrator must be brought to justice.
Violence of any kind is wrong; those who commit it should be caught and punished.
Jill and I are keeping the deputies and their loved ones in our hearts and praying for a full recovery.
CNN
@CNN
Two Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department deputies were shot and critically injured Saturday night, officials say. https://cnn.it/2GPTsmE
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,767 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,907 posts)Both sound like solid liberal positions.
radius777
(3,635 posts)with independents of course Dems, and only disliked by racist RW types who aren't voting for us anyway.
The Willie Horton shit doesn't work anymore - it's not 1988. The suburbs tend to be socially liberal and much more diverse than they used to be.
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)Can you explain just exactly why it would be bad for Biden to be associated with Lebron James?
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)Because he is rich and not "oppressed"
WFAN has some pro-Trump sports hosts.
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)Some of their hosts are just terrible bigots.
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)I think a lot of police unions donate to WFAN and their hosts live in NJ or Long Island where they don't associate with minorities that much
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)They're bigoted against black and brown people, not BLM. They're racists.
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)WFAN is one of the largest sports radio stations in America
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Do you think Trump is going to win New Jersey? Didn't the New Jersey GOP just get completely shellacked in 2018, including in areas like the 7th district and the 11th district that were GOP strongholds for fucking decades?
Do you think Trump is going to win Nassau county? Suffolk county? Westchester County?
JI7
(89,241 posts)than the non racist ones.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Alacritous Crier
(3,814 posts)JI7
(89,241 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)They speak to a specific type of white guy who isn't voting Dem anyway.
Moose and Maggie show leans liberal, as does Steve Sommers. The rest seem mostly apolitical.
Botany
(70,451 posts)I like pretty pictures do you?
Midnight Writer
(21,720 posts)babbling incoherently.
Our media amplifies the outrageous and gives short shrift to the normal.
Yavin4
(35,423 posts)And unless he specifically rencounces each and every instance of criminal act comitted by a Black person then he will be held responsible?
Never mind that this is a local police matter and the perp, when captured, will have the full weight of the law thrown at him unlike cops in Louisville, KY who walk the streets freely after murdering her in her own apartment without warning.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)NT
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)I didn't know.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)There is no MAYBE. Biden said what he said, he didn't MAYBE say it.
Stop. It's becoming embarrassing for you.
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)CNN, MSNBC, etc aren't talking about it
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)rather than looking, researching and collating on your own.
"Tough. Principled. No-nonsense...." Really?
JI7
(89,241 posts)SouthernCal_Dem
(852 posts)Good grief!
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)They say the athletes should be quiet
Kingofalldems
(38,425 posts)NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)I don't have a link
The NYGOP and NJGOP advertises on WFAN a lot, since most people who listen to sports radio are men, and men are the GOP's main voting bloc.
Police officers and police unions donate money to WFAN
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)Demsrule86
(68,505 posts)NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)That's why.
radius777
(3,635 posts)Maggie Grey is an outspoken liberal, as is Steve Sommers. They have talked about system racism (and sexism) and have voiced support for the players kneeling.
Boomer and Gio are the only real obnoxious RW'ers - fuck them.
Howard Stern the 'king of all media' (not on WFAN, but still a radio fixture) is a strong Biden supporter - he can clown any of them any day of the week.
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)I think he is a bit too nuts, but he isn't far-far right.
Demsrule86
(68,505 posts)Give me a break. Your motives are not hard to fathom...really.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)How 'bout that?
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)They lost the 7th district and the 11th district in 2018, GOP strongholds for decades. They were basically wiped off the Congressional map in New Jersey two years ago. Will they regain some seats? Maybe, maybe not. But fearing the NJ GOP is about the silliest fucking thing I've heard today. They might be popular with your neighbors in your suburb, but they are not really that popular as evidenced not by your anecdotal story, but the most recent election results. In any case, Trump has ZERO chance of winning New Jersey or the suburban counties of New York, where he will lose in giant landslides, so your whole premise for this post is nonsense.
If you live in Edison, New Jersey, as your bio states, your district hasn't had a GOP Congressional member in almost 40 years. Your Congressional district has voted for the Democratic Presidential candidate in 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, and 2016. Tell me again how popular the NJ GOP is in your suburb. Oh, sorry, you said your "white suburb."
JI7
(89,241 posts)racist trash.
They are perfectly fine with the fucked up white trash trump taking us soldiers and every other fucked up thing he does which the white people in your neighborhood take pleasure in.
JI7
(89,241 posts)other people that live there also
DrToast
(6,414 posts)Enough with the bedwetting.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Very much so....
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)uponit7771
(90,304 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Thanks for your concern, though
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)Didn't think so...
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)N/T....#KeepYourEyesOpen
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Gotta embrace the logical fallacy when the alternative is a narrative falling onto its own face for all to see.
Didn't think so, Part II
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)JI7
(89,241 posts)about the democratic candidate ?
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)Your concern about LeBron James is hysterical.
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)Didn't think so...
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)liskddksil
(2,753 posts)criticism of the campaign citing poll numbers and articles that continue to be met with pithy "thanks for you concern" garbage posts.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Because that's what the OP is supposedly concerned about. because of an ad on sports radio. On the specific claims of the OP, I call nonsense. Tough love? Is it tough love to say that Biden better attend to the NJ and NY suburbs of New York City, because it sounds like pure silliness to me, at best.
The OP then went on and on about the NJ GOP, and how his neighbors in his "white suburb" (tough love, see?) like them. His suburb's district hasn't put a Republican in Congress since 1983, and voted for Democrats for President during every election in this millennium. But sure, tough love requires that we take this nonsense seriously. The only GOP state party to get humiliated worse than the NJ GOP in 2018 was the California GOP, and that's a coin toss. Is concern about the NJ GOP tough love, or nonsense and bullshit? You pick yours. I know mine.
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)to just call out all of them no matter what.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)with the foolish, the vile, and the fucking deplorable.
"The NJ GOP is popular in the white suburbs where I live."
You might consider that sometimes, just sometimes, those you've taken to criticizing are, perhaps, correct.
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)They love him there
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/23/donald-trump-ms-13-long-island-218417
Long Island has a lot of Back the Blue, pro-police people.
JI7
(89,241 posts)Lake City ?
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)N/T....#KeepYourEyesOpen Folks
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Umm....
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)We SAID, WHAT WE SAID! Now, Check That!
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)whatever
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)articles or comments with even the most tough-love tinged form of criticism of the campaign's trajectory as being somehow not on our side. Many of these same people also made the same posts in 2016 attacking the credibility of posters who were pointing out glaring red-flags in the Clinton/Kaine campaign operation. It's really upsetting that in a Democratic discussion board to see such stiffling of free-speech. If we can't handle posts that we disagree with, what business do we have calling out this on the other side?
RobinA
(9,886 posts)I was labeled a concern troll 4 years ago for noting that there were Trump yard signs where I didnt expect to see them. Ive been around long enough to not get upset over that sort of thing (I did cast a spell on the loud mouthed since departed person who did it), but if I had been anywhere near new here I probably would not have come back.
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)And it makes all of us look bad.
JI7
(89,241 posts)liskddksil
(2,753 posts)JI7
(89,241 posts)liskddksil
(2,753 posts)and made numerous mistakes which they acknowledge. The Race was already tightening long before Comey. Learning from mistakes is how me move forward, not attacking and bullying people who point them out.
JI7
(89,241 posts)the lies.
You had Sanders supporters booing her at the convention.
So we did learn from that shit and what many of those scumbags were about.
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)We cannot be complacent.
We need to hear tough love and harsh criticisms.
JI7
(89,241 posts)and when called out on it act like a victim.
JI7
(89,241 posts)and when informed by others they brought up some concern fucked up white trash have about rich black guys .
JI7
(89,241 posts)It's fucking dishonest to not bring up the facts concerning the 2016 elections .
As if misinformed concerned trolls knew anything. If they did why didn't they warn us about Comey.
JI7
(89,241 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Demsrule86
(68,505 posts)Sunsky
(1,737 posts)So what's next? Do you see why we shouldn't tailor our action to what the GOP/Trump is doing or might do?
Also, what is wrong with being tied to black lives matter and LeBron James?
mcar
(42,279 posts)because he did, of course. Maybe you should have done your homework before posting. Just a thought.
JI7
(89,241 posts)JI7
(89,241 posts)running for president and attacking US soldiers is something to celebrate ?
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)Why would you see a GOP ad on the TeeVee and think there is even one piece of merit to it?
Do yourself a favor, automatically assume anything they churn out is total horse manure.
JI7
(89,241 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)mcar
(42,279 posts)Tarc
(10,475 posts)LeBron James is one of the leading voices on racial issues, including BLM.
This is not the venue in which to channel Candace Owens and others that pitifully flail away at James and other police reform advocates.
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)I didn't even see Biden's statement on MSNBC/CNN, etc.
He should have been swift on this, Trump has the momentum right now on law and order because a lot of police unions and firefighter unions are endorsing him left to right
Tarc
(10,475 posts)No more time shall be wasted on a sub-1,000, Avatar-free user.
The fact that you have ZERO upvotes on this tripe is remarkably telling.
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)All the hallmarks of rational debate, not.
radius777
(3,635 posts)and has not been hurt in the swing states in the Midwest where the riots happened.
I don't see MSNBC or CNN covering much of the police shooting issue one way or the other - only FOX - and swing voters don't watch FOX.
Trump is the President - this is his America that he's created with his divisiness. He fans the flames of chaos because he thinks it benefits him but voters (outside of his base) are not that stupid.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)denbot
(9,898 posts)Wink wink..
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)It's been on the news. I saw it this morning.
Perhaps you should check before posting.