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Someone shot his trap off to Alex Jones.
STONE: The Clinton campaign narrative that the Russian favor Donald Trump and the Russians are leaking this information, this is inoculation because as you said earlier, they know what is coming and it is devastating. Let's remember that their defense to all of the Clinton Foundation scandals has been not, we didn't do it, has been, you have no proof. yes, but you have no proof. Well, I think Julian Assange has that proof, and I think he's going to furnish it to the American people.
"Oh, wow. Look at that. Roger Stone previewed that to the American people and then it happened. And last year he was convicted of lying to Congress precisely about his role as a go-between with Julian Assange and Wikileaks," Hayes said.
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"Most recently he told Alex Jones again that the president should seize power by force and basically end the American democratic experiment."
STONE: We can prove voter fraud in the absentees right now. Send federal marshals to the Clark County Board of Elections, Mr. President. It is all there. I don't want to overplay the facts here, but if someone will study the president's authority in the Insurrection Act, his ability to impose the martial law if there is widespread cheating, he will have the authority to arrest Zuckerberg, to arrest Tim Cook, to arrest the Clintons, to arrest anybody else who can be proven to be involved in illegal activity. Force will be met with force. That's the way this is going to have to work. It's really unfortunate.
"Okay. So Roger Stone, again, not just some random crank, the president's closest political adviser, saying the president should impose martial law and start an armed coup to take over the country. That's happening as his long-time ally and a Trump protégé at the Department of Health and Human Services, as we told you at the beginning of the show, is telling people to buy ammunition," Hayes said.
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/09/roger-stone-urges-trump-impose-martial-law
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dchill
(38,462 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,333 posts)It has a very specific meaning. And it doesnt mean just Against the country or whatever we want it to. There are certainly most likely other charges he could be arrested on such as inciting violence maybe.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)"the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government."
Purists harm, much more than they help.
Sorry, but I think "overthrow the government" is a perfect fit. That is a rather broad "definition". We all know what it means, and there are many ways to do it.
And he did it while smirking into the camera, KNOWING he had lied about it. To get rich(er).
Pompous bastard, desperately trying to project legitimate flamboyance, but could only effect tacky and gauche. Fucking Poseur.
sir pball
(4,741 posts)In the US, "treason" is the only crime defined in the Constitution, and it is indeed a very narrow definition.
Article III, Section 3:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
That's it. Now, you could try and make the argument that Trump is an Enemy of the United States, but firstly, not gonna happen, and secondly, would you want Trump to be able to argue that Obama is an Enemy?
WA-03 Democrat
(3,039 posts)I think there is ample evidence that we are at war with the Soviets. Putin fucks with us nonstop at many levels. Trump does not acknowledge it nor protect us is a byproduct of the the war.
sir pball
(4,741 posts)Trump is already deep in enough easy-to-prove crap to lock him away for the rest of his life, and if Stone says word one after a Biden win he's pretty clearly "advocating overthrow of Government"; I'll gleefully take the lesser, quicker charges to see them nailed ASAP.
Now, in the longer term, there should absolutely be a deep dive into Trump, hell, the entire Republican party, and Russia, but that should be a matter to be dealt with once he's behind bars. Priorities and all that.
Maru Kitteh
(28,333 posts)Yes Putin is back in the USSR, but they remain for the moment, the Russian Federation.
We are not in a declared war with the Russian Federation.
Like I said- treason doesnt just mean against the country or whatever we want it to. And we dont arrest people with the dictionary.
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WA-03 Democrat
(3,039 posts)Why does a justice department memo protect a corrupt and murderous President? If we are following the dictionary is that not better than an opinion piece. Lets setup a truth committee. The USSR has done this with many nations. Its an act of war. We can have congress backdate the start of the war since the Repukes sided with our enemy and did not honor Congressional subpoenas. To further their scheme, they defied the laws. Its not a normal war but the intent is to destroy US. How many need to die from the inaction of Putins puppet? This year alone we are halfway to WWII deaths the last time we fought this.
Yes, lets get power, stabilize but understand what has happened and correct the gaps so it cannot happen again.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)It is interesting that Stone's narrative corresponds with the QAnon propaganda about "The Storm", (the Nazi's liked that word). We also have the Boogaloo Bois' "civil war" version that they contend will begin the day after the election.
Yet, what Stone is describing is a Fascist coup, plain and simple. Somebody should make up their mind here. What's it gonna' be?
Meanwhile, they are all sowing seeds of discord and confusion and the anticipation of a major disturbance in the near future while a stochastic terrorist fuels the flames while as he continues to commit 2nd-degree murder of Americans by way of misinformation, negligence and gross dereliction of duties.
The propaganda and rhetoric alone is a big concern, especially since Republicans, et al, are not really disavowing this toxic mix to any useful degree. It seems to me that they want to throw the country into complete turmoil and utilize that to take full control without concern for our Constitution.
We have a very bumpy road ahead, to put it mildly.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,996 posts)What a load.
jcgoldie
(11,627 posts)Have some appreciation shees!
solara
(3,836 posts)"Sedition is a serious felony punishable by fines and up to 20 years in prison and it refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it."
Did #TraitorTrump pardon #SeditiousStone in advance for crimes he is now committing?