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"September 15, 2020:
Iran is not as religious, or Islamic, as its Shia Moslem religious dictatorship likes to think. To determine the true religious feelings of Iranians GAMAAN (Group for Analyzing and Measuring Attitudes in Iran) used its experience with online anonymous surveys to determine just how religious Iranians are and how many still consider themselves Moslems. That has been something of a mystery because for over two years there have been larger and larger anti-government protests. One surprising feature of these protests is the growing number of Iranians hostile to Islam and willing to be public about. Iranians are reluctant to tell strangers how they feel about religion but the word on the street was that most Iranians have quietly abandoned Islam. The recent GAMAAN survey, supervised by expatriate Iranians, contacted a number of online groups inside Iran and convinced them to participate in an anonymous survey of religious beliefs. GAMAAN assembled 400,000 online participants, representing an accurate cross-section of Iranians in Iran, and conducted the survey. The results were a shock, at least to the government. While the government insists that 99 percent of Iranians are Moslem, the survey found that only 40 percent were. Breaking that down further 32 percent of Iranians are Shia, five percent Sunni and three percent Sufi (a more mellow Islam hated by Islamic extremists). Other religious preferences included 8.8 percent atheists, 5.8 percent agnostic 2.7 percent humanist and seven percent non-denominational spiritualists. Not surprisingly eight percent were Zoroastrian, a native Iranian religion older that Judaism and eliminated in the 7 th century by invading Islamic armies. Since then a small number of Iranians continued to practice Zoroastrianism in secret inside Iran and openly outside of Iran. Many Zoroastrianism customs are still practiced inside Iran, much to the dismay of some Islamic clerics. Efforts to suppress these ancient customs have failed for over a thousand years. Now Iranians are openly (in crowds) calling for the revival of this ancient monotheistic (one god) religion as more Iranians seek a more humane alternative to Islam.
Another 1.5 percent said they were Christian, 0.1 percent Jewish, 0.5 percent Bahai, 3.3 percent other and 22.2 percent declared they had no religious beliefs at all. Overall 78 percent of Iranians believed in God while 90 percent of Iranians admitted to growing up in or still practicing some religion. A third of Iranians admitted they regularly consume alcoholic beverages, something forbidden to Moslems. Less than 40 percent observed the daily schedule of Moslem prayers and about the same percentage observed the fast during the holy month of Ramadan. The rest would claim an illness and this was widely tolerated. Trying to enforce the fast on that many Iranians was seen as an impossible task. Even so 68 percent believed that religious practices should not have the rule of law and 72 percent opposed the law or custom mandating that women wear hijab (hair covering) outdoors.
There is still a large minority of Moslems, most of them Shia. It is from this population that the IRGC (Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps) recruit its personnel and this force of about 220,000, plus twice as many Basj volunteer civilian fighters continues to control Iran by force. That control is weakening and the government is again executing prominent protestors on false charges. The most recent example was a popular athlete and prominent critic of the government. The government threatens more such executions unless the protests stop. The threats began with violent attacks on protestors by IRGC and Basj personnel. This was followed by using lethal force and arrests. Now its executions of prominent protestors. As the crackdowns escalate and the economy declines the protests persists."
https://strategypage.com/qnd/iran/articles/20200915.aspx
OAITW r.2.0
(24,287 posts)A universal reaction, IMHO.
brush
(53,741 posts)The correct term is Muslims.
EX500rider
(10,809 posts)brush
(53,741 posts)thus the writer's viewpoint.
EX500rider
(10,809 posts)Muslim
adjective
of or relating to the religion, law, or civilization of Islam.
noun, plural Mus·lims, Mus·lim.
an adherent of Islam.
Black Muslim.
brush
(53,741 posts)Moslem | Definition of Moslem by Merriam-Webster
www.merriam-webster.com dictionary Moslem
Moslem definition is - formerly common but now old-fashioned, increasingly rare, and sometimes offensive variant of muslim.
EX500rider
(10,809 posts)Oh no! A woman showing her hair! Eating pork!! Having a abortion! Single mix sex people meeting! The Horror!
brush
(53,741 posts)term from the '50s used by western nations. It's an archaic term considered derogatory by Muslims.
There's no excuse for it now. Come up to the 21st century.
It's quite unexpected and disappointing to see this defended on this progressive site.
EX500rider
(10,809 posts)brush
(53,741 posts)to a major religion. I don't use insulting terms for any religions and I hope you know better from now on.
I expect better from posters on DU.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)It's a simple transliteration from Arabic into a Latin-based alphabet. It'll always be an approximation.
Some people are always offended. You should hear how some foreign cultures (e.g. Japanese) render English names and words into their own phonemes if you want a good laugh.
Fuck the perpetually-offended.
brush
(53,741 posts)definition and pronunciation of themselves. "Moslem" is outdated and insulting to Muslims.
What's to even argue about?
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)Permanent outrage is both tireseome and counter-productive.
brush
(53,741 posts)You're getting kind of silly, dude.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)Mus·lim
noun
noun: Moslem
a follower of the religion of Islam.
adjective
adjective: Moslem
relating to Muslims or their religion.
brush
(53,741 posts)Moslem | Definition of Moslem by Merriam-Webster
www.merriam-webster.com dictionary Moslem
Moslem definition is - formerly common but now old-fashioned, increasingly rare, and sometimes offensive variant of muslim.
Now do you understand?
msongs
(67,360 posts)widely used by hundreds of millions of believers
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)A Muslim in Arabic means "one who gives himself to God," and is by definition, someone who adheres to Islam. By contrast, a Moslem in Arabic means "one who is evil and unjust" when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,265 posts)I have no idea of what their political outlooks or affiliations are, but Juan Cole is hosting it, and I trust him - he was a voice of sanity in the Iraq war.
https://www.juancole.com/2020/09/republic-consider-themselves.html
(they use 'Muslim')
Karadeniz
(22,470 posts)Hidden meaning like Christianity...hidden way too well, leaving Christians with a shallow understanding of our place and function in the god system and a tendency to violate truth. But good for Iranians...now if we can not blow it and force them to think our ways are ungodly.