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Why is hockey the most hostile to social activism/BLM? (Original Post) NYCButterfinger Sep 2020 OP
It is almost all white. Simple as that. Celerity Sep 2020 #1
hostile in what ways? nt msongs Sep 2020 #2
Whenever a white athlete like Tyler Seguin voices support, he gets criticism and abuse online/etc NYCButterfinger Sep 2020 #11
You should see Stars fans when he did that vercetti2021 Sep 2020 #13
Seriously? MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #3
Wrong. Look up Brad Marchand and racial justice. Look up the NHL Diversity Alliance. Blue_true Sep 2020 #23
Also Patrice Bergeron of the Bruins RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #37
Yes, Bergeron also. Both have been very open and vocal. nt Blue_true Sep 2020 #38
Cites? OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2020 #4
Fans have the highest average income and education of any pro sport soothsayer Sep 2020 #5
.... Spazito Sep 2020 #6
It's an almost all ebbie15644 Sep 2020 #7
It's mostly White Athletes outside of Basketball that are hostile . For some reason White BAsketball JI7 Sep 2020 #8
Hockey teams took the time off as with other sports teams Bev54 Sep 2020 #9
Plus there is a player driven Diversity improvement effort. Blue_true Sep 2020 #22
Trolling tenderfoot Sep 2020 #10
Up next the lack of class consciousness in curling grantcart Sep 2020 #39
What is this nonsense? Who? There is a "We skate for Black lives" banner visible in the game tritsofme Sep 2020 #12
The game still has oldies with a Ditka vibe like Don Cherry, Mike Milbury NYCButterfinger Sep 2020 #15
Don Cherry got fired last year. Mike Milbury is probably done with NBC Sports. tritsofme Sep 2020 #17
The accusation is a slap in the face of players like Brad Marchand, a White man Blue_true Sep 2020 #21
The banner covers up a culture of racism and homophobia that goes from the NHL to youth hockey. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #32
Those problems are not unique to hockey. You ignored the rest the post as well. tritsofme Sep 2020 #34
Telling the truth about something isn't shitting on it. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #35
Nope, you are just shitting, and actively ignoring all the efforts to make a difference. tritsofme Sep 2020 #36
Because most hockey fans are white vercetti2021 Sep 2020 #14
Yep MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #24
Uhh..what? Xolodno Sep 2020 #16
It's not just a race issue aaaaaa5a Sep 2020 #18
Actually, Brad Marchand, the starting Center for the Boston Bruins Blue_true Sep 2020 #20
The NHL had a sports shutdown, players refused to play. Blue_true Sep 2020 #19
Demographics DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2020 #25
Got a link on that? Kingofalldems Sep 2020 #26
Other than Naomi Osaka, I'm not seeing a lot of activism in tennis either. cwydro Sep 2020 #27
Many of them don't vote because they are rich people and they are uninformed NYCButterfinger Sep 2020 #28
Absofuckinglutely. cwydro Sep 2020 #29
Because it's a racist institution with a racist culture. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #30
Okay did anyone see the opening of the Stanley Cup games and Round Robin..........did turbinetree Sep 2020 #31
Most players aren't even American. themaguffin Sep 2020 #33
 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
11. Whenever a white athlete like Tyler Seguin voices support, he gets criticism and abuse online/etc
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:26 PM
Sep 2020

They are some white athletes that speak on the issue, but they get blowback from some white coaches, etc.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
13. You should see Stars fans when he did that
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:29 PM
Sep 2020

It caused a drop in our season tickets and I was on there. We don't want you racists anyway. Go watch stock car racing! Its more simple than hockey since you have to know how that game works.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
3. Seriously?
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:07 PM
Sep 2020

The players are almost 100% white as are the viewers. Neither the players nor the viewers are pushing for justice. Racial inequality does not affect them.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. Wrong. Look up Brad Marchand and racial justice. Look up the NHL Diversity Alliance.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:42 AM
Sep 2020

You are wrong, but that is acceptable given that Hockey is like 99% White (though two of the best players are Black and a third top player is an Arabic Muslim).

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)
4. Cites?
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:08 PM
Sep 2020

An assertion made with no corroborating evidence. I used to play hockey. I loved everyone, except the assholes who liked to trip or sucker elbowed.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
5. Fans have the highest average income and education of any pro sport
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:08 PM
Sep 2020

But dunno. Probably the white thing. Privileged white thing that is.

Spazito

(50,325 posts)
6. ....
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:09 PM
Sep 2020

Hockey, Rocked by Racist Acts, Embraces Black Lives Matter Campaigns

To a degree not seen before, players are kneeling for the United States national anthem and speaking out publicly on fighting racism, with backing from the National Hockey League.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/10/sports/hockey/nhl-racism-protests-george-floyd.html

JI7

(89,247 posts)
8. It's mostly White Athletes outside of Basketball that are hostile . For some reason White BAsketball
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:14 PM
Sep 2020

players tend to be less likely to be right wing than white atheletes in many other sports.

White People are just hostile to blm because of racism, white privilege etc

Bev54

(10,048 posts)
9. Hockey teams took the time off as with other sports teams
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:16 PM
Sep 2020

in support of BLM. I am really not sure what you are getting at.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. Plus there is a player driven Diversity improvement effort.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:37 AM
Sep 2020

And Brad Marchand is one of the most outspoken people in Sports on the need for social justice, he doesn’t seem to see society functioning much longer without social justice issues being resolved.

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
12. What is this nonsense? Who? There is a "We skate for Black lives" banner visible in the game
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:27 PM
Sep 2020

I’m watching right now. All of the league’s big stars issued statements and spoke out in support racial justice, some big name players even attended protest events. They suspended play for two days in solidarity. One of the players, Matt Dumba, gave an impassioned speech on national tv prior to the first game back from the virus pause.

There is still a long way to go, and the newly formed Hockey Diversity Alliance is keeping the NHL’s feet to the fire. But I largely call BS on your characterization of the sport.

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
15. The game still has oldies with a Ditka vibe like Don Cherry, Mike Milbury
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:32 PM
Sep 2020

Who are not fans of social and racial equality

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. The accusation is a slap in the face of players like Brad Marchand, a White man
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:34 AM
Sep 2020

, who have put both words and actions behind the fight for social justice and who has taken a lot of flack and threats from fans because of that (not that Marchand would run from a fist fight).

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
34. Those problems are not unique to hockey. You ignored the rest the post as well.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 09:25 PM
Sep 2020

Players are taking the lead and making change happen. But if you just want to shit on the sport, go ahead.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
14. Because most hockey fans are white
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:30 PM
Sep 2020

Trust me I've argued with these fools on Facebook and its always the same thing. Play the sport you black man! Entertain me and shut up! That bullshit mentality

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
16. Uhh..what?
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:33 PM
Sep 2020

Sure most players and fans are white. And a good chunk of them are foreign...from Canada, Sweden, Russia, Slovania, Norway, etc. To be realistic, they are probably more concerned about their native countries issues than the USA, and they would be right.

It's also the only sport (NHL) where either the US or Canadian anthem is played depending on the venue. Unlike American Football, etc. the NHL is an international sport practiced mostly by North American players and European who want a bigger paycheck. I distinctly remember the "Detroit Five", main line of the Red Wings....all Russian players and they dominated. Most nations without significant snowfall don't participate. Sure, Jamaica has put forward a bobsled team for the Olympics, they are the exception and not the rule. So, why do you expect foreign citizens to kneel at the anthem when the anthem isn't even their country. Having been to a number of hockey games, they just stand in respect...real easy to discern who is a foreign player vs. US.

Oh and there are more players of African descent in the NHL as of late....majority from Canada.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
18. It's not just a race issue
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:54 PM
Sep 2020

Most people don’t realize that the NHL is not really an American Sport.

The majority of players are NOT from the United States. Many of the players are from Canada and Russia.

American culture and influence is going to be the least influential in the NHL because quite frankly, it’s just not very pro-American. Most of the players have allegiances to other countries.

Americans don’t play hockey. By the numbers, we really don’t watch it either.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. Actually, Brad Marchand, the starting Center for the Boston Bruins
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:30 AM
Sep 2020

has been very vocal about social justice issues and has drawn fan hostility because of that. Other Hockey players have spoken out on social justice issues and the need to address them now.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. The NHL had a sports shutdown, players refused to play.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:28 AM
Sep 2020

The starting Center for the Boston Bruins (Canadian) has been very vocal about the need for social justice and an end to police violence now. A player in the Western Bubble lead a similar effort there.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
27. Other than Naomi Osaka, I'm not seeing a lot of activism in tennis either.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 04:07 PM
Sep 2020

But I really don't care what sports stars have to say about political issues. Many, many of them don't even vote.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
29. Absofuckinglutely.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 04:26 PM
Sep 2020

And many just don't give a good goddamn.

Kaepernick didn't vote and equated Hillary with the buffoon.

I saw an interview with a player on my hometown pro football team saying he just wasn't "brought up" to vote. Many of them don't care.

I have no idea who that kid in your post is lol. A sports star? That million is going to go fast.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
31. Okay did anyone see the opening of the Stanley Cup games and Round Robin..........did
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 04:28 PM
Sep 2020

anyone see the Matt Dumba of the MN Wild here let me remind everyone.................

https://www.nhl.com/wild/video/matt-dumba-pregame-speech/t-277437412/c-5392833



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