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Zorro

(15,722 posts)
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:48 AM Sep 2020

Evangelical Asks God To Give Her Strength To Incorporate Forced Hysterectomies Into Belief System

CORDOVA, TN—Praying that the Lord Almighty would help her understand the recent whistleblower reports about Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s treatment of migrant detainees, conservative evangelical woman Melissa Carson reportedly asked God Tuesday to give her strength to incorporate forced hysterectomies into her belief system.

“Lord, show me how the forced removal of the uterus from multiple imprisoned women is evidence of our salvation by grace alone,” said the devout evangelical woman, scanning her Bible for a verse or two that might offer a reason for why ICE-affiliated physicians were performing hysterectomies on detained women, many of whom did not speak English and were not given information or choice about the procedures.

“I know I’m asking an awful lot of you, Lord, but my religion teaches me that all life is sacred, and although I know you move in mysterious ways, I confess I am confused as to how forced hysterectomies fit into that. You are just testing me, Lord, and I know that, but I am going to need a little bit of divine help to understand this one.”

At press time, Carson was praising the Lord for his guidance after remembering that the hysterectomies were completely justified because President Donald Trump was a divine being simply carrying out God’s will.

https://www.theonion.com/conservative-evangelical-asks-god-to-give-him-strength-1845065847

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Evangelical Asks God To Give Her Strength To Incorporate Forced Hysterectomies Into Belief System (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2020 OP
LOL. ooky Sep 2020 #1
K&R. It has been a long time since something posted that seemed like rzemanfl Sep 2020 #2
I know it's satire and the Onion gratuitous Sep 2020 #3
Distracting CPS agencies, apparently. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #5
Qanon are probably coming up with "theories" TheRealNorth Sep 2020 #7
I doubt they give a damn, as to them, these are not "our" children. kysrsoze Sep 2020 #10
That should be easy, they already found ways to explain away the over 300 errors in the Bible. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #4
Took me a second. Wonder what Mrs. Betty Bowers will have to say on this. niyad Sep 2020 #6
The bible seems to justify abortion if the husband thinks his wife has strayed. Maraya1969 Sep 2020 #8
More Top-Notch Journalism From 'The Onion', Sir The Magistrate Sep 2020 #9

rzemanfl

(29,554 posts)
2. K&R. It has been a long time since something posted that seemed like
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:51 AM
Sep 2020

it was from The Onion actually was.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. I know it's satire and the Onion
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:53 AM
Sep 2020

But I have to ask, where are the QAnon Save Our Children kooks? The situation at the border is a real-life actual happening, as opposed to their crazed delusions about world-wide secret cabals. The total disconnect between these nuts and reality is so appalling to see.

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
5. Distracting CPS agencies, apparently.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:03 AM
Sep 2020

.


‘It’s Out Of Control’: How QAnon Undermines Legitimate Anti-Trafficking Efforts

The child sex trade is a global crisis. Far-right conspiracy theorists are harassing, distracting and intimidating the organizations fighting to end it.


Hundreds of protests erupted across the country in recent weeks, purportedly to demand an end to child sex trafficking. From tiny communities such as Poteau, Oklahoma, to Los Angeles, Miami, Denver and other major cities, people stormed the streets, calling for the mass execution of pedophiles and even accusing various public figures of torturing, raping and enslaving children to harvest their blood.

Lurking at the helm of these so-called “Save Our Children” rallies is QAnon, the far-right conspiracy theory movement that baselessly claims, with stunning and growing support, that President Donald Trump is secretly battling a “deep state” cabal of Democratic politicians and A-list celebrities who traffic children for sex.

Child sex trafficking is a dire problem: It happens in all 50 states, almost always at the hands of people the victims know and trust. But QAnon — in its virulent campaign to expose a supposed underground pedophilia ring run by the liberal elite — is exacerbating the very crisis it claims to be fighting. As the movement appropriates and sensationalizes the issue to recruit more followers into its conspiratorial web, legitimate anti-trafficking organizations are suffering significant collateral damage.

HuffPost spoke to employees at child welfare groups across the U.S. and beyond about the burdens that QAnon has placed upon them and their work. For many, debunking viral misinformation, mining through unhinged tips and warding off mob harassment has become part of the job — detracting from their ability to actually help kids in need.

More at:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-qanon-impedes-legitimate-anti-trafficking-groups_n_5f4eacb9c5b69eb5c03592d1



Perhaps QAnon's whole purpose is to provide shelter for Global Pedos. Any normal group, if their actions were found to interfere with this, would either change their messaging or terminate the group. Not QAnon. So, what's really their agenda--because it seems like it's NOT protecting children?

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TheRealNorth

(9,470 posts)
7. Qanon are probably coming up with "theories"
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:21 AM
Sep 2020

about what was done with the removed uterus' and how it implicates Hillary Clinton.

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
4. That should be easy, they already found ways to explain away the over 300 errors in the Bible.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:56 AM
Sep 2020

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Their adaption to mainline religion's adoption of Biblical Inerrancy is causing mental splitting.


You would not believe how strangely wired their thought processes are above traditional religions. Over the course of 3 decades, most Christian churches push concepts that even the most sheepish follower struggles with--but instead of questioning further, they have adopted the position of just accepting whatever bullshit comes their way. This is why, mainly Evangelicals and Charismatics, support Trump as they are the most conditioned to be accepting and unquestioning followers.

Unfortunately, there have been a few dramatic developments in religion that will screw us all.


1) There was a cult group that pushed that there is Biblical Inerrancy, meaning that the Bible is correct. This finally became accepted in the late 70's with the Chicago Statement of Biblical Inerrancy. Many of the educated clergy and researchers were told to either accept this position, and ignore the over 300 errors in the Bible or quit or be forced out of their positions. Most left the church and their positions were filled by hacks who invented excuses to justify the Bible is without error, even fabricating backstories. Traditional Christian churches began adopting this position too. This causes people to not to question their religion, and this translates into them not questioning their political leaders they align with--they become sheep who fall in line with power.

2) The adoption of Two-Stage Baptisms, where the Holy Spirit enters a person, mainly demonstrated by Glossolalia (speaking in tongue). Charismatics believe that this is just a temporary visitation to convey a message to the person or church body. Pentecostals believe that once the Holy Spirit chooses you, it remains within you and everything you do is effectively sanctioned by God. As such, there is a big push for parishioners to speak in tongue so they can be accepted--because if the HS doesn't enter you, there must be a reason you are not worthy. This bullshit started in the early 1900s. This is why pious people think they can do whatever or that they will sit by the right side of Jesus when they die.

3) Since traditional religions place God on the outside, there is the attraction for people to feel more connected to God. Many of these traditional churches are now adopting the Pentecostal position that the HS enters a person to attract congregants. There is some resistance with older church members so you will see that many churches are holding two sets of services, a traditional one and a New/Contemporary service that pushes this bullshit.

See, the main problem is that there are a bunch of charlatans starting their own churches as a way to gain respect, have control over others, get free labor, and obtain a source of income. This, along with younger people drifting away from religion, is causing cash constraints on traditional mainly Christian churches--so they are doing everything they can to attract people to build their membership and tithings. Take notice, when you drive by churches, that they are offering multiple services and/or or allowing other churches to use their space.

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Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
8. The bible seems to justify abortion if the husband thinks his wife has strayed.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:30 AM
Sep 2020

Num. 5:11: The LORD spoke to Moses, saying:
Num. 5:12: Speak to the Israelites and say to them: If any man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him,
Num. 5:13: if a man has had intercourse with her but it is hidden from her husband, so that she is undetected though she has defiled herself, and there is no witness against her since she was not caught in the act;
Num. 5:14: if a spirit of jealousy comes on him, and he is jealous of his wife who has defiled herself; or if a spirit of jealousy comes on him, and he is jealous of his wife, though she has not defiled herself;

Num. 5:15: then the man shall bring his wife to the priest. And he shall bring the offering required for her, one-tenth of an ephah of barley flour. He shall pour no oil on it and put no frankincense on it, for it is a grain offering of jealousy, a grain offering of remembrance, bringing iniquity to remembrance.
Num. 5:16: Then the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the LORD;
Num. 5:17: the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel, and take some of the dust that is on the floor of the tabernacle and put it into the water.

Num. 5:18 con’t: and place in her hands the grain offering of remembrance, which is the grain offering of jealousy. In his own hand the priest shall have the water of bitterness that brings the curse.

Num. 5:19: Then the priest shall make her take an oath, saying, “If no man has lain with you, if you have not turned aside to uncleanness while under your husband’s authority, be immune to this water of bitterness that brings the curse.
Num. 5:20: But if you have gone astray while under your husband’s authority, if you have defiled yourself and some man other than your husband has had intercourse with you,”
Num. 5:21: —let the priest make the woman take the oath of the curse and say to the woman—“the LORD make you an execration and an oath among your people, when the LORD makes your uterus drop, your womb discharge;


Num. 5:22: now may this water that brings the curse enter your bowels and make your womb discharge, your uterus drop!” And the woman shall say, “Amen. Amen.”
Num. 5:23 Then the priest shall put these curses in writing, and wash them off into the water of bitterness.

https://robertcargill.com/2015/08/19/on-god-ordained-abortion-inducing-magic-potions-and-jealous-husbands-shaming-their-wives-in-the-bible/

The Magistrate

(95,242 posts)
9. More Top-Notch Journalism From 'The Onion', Sir
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:32 AM
Sep 2020

It will be nice when they can go back to doing satire, and no longer have to shoulder the burden the New York Times and others have dropped....

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