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NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 09:51 AM Sep 2020

We are re-reading Winds of War by Herman Wouk. Remarkable parallels

between Hitler and the orange turd - the way both had total disdain for their supporters, the way utter lies flowed from their lips, the approach to speeches, the formation of the cult. The book is a bit dated in some of the verbiage and dialog and characters, but fascinating with respect to the lead up to WW2.

Those who don't understand and learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The recent poll on views of young people to the Holocaust are clear indications of the effect of right wing propaganda.

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We are re-reading Winds of War by Herman Wouk. Remarkable parallels (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Sep 2020 OP
Oh, what a wonderful author/book. I should do that as well. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #1
great books (that and War and Remembrance). stunning parallels. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2020 #2
The Splendid and the Vile Desert_Leslie Sep 2020 #3
Hitler's biographers relate that Hitler possessed an awkward bourgeois charm in person. Aristus Sep 2020 #4
Wouk lived to nearly 104 PCIntern Sep 2020 #5
kick for my original hardback bigtree Sep 2020 #6
My re-read: "The Grapes of Wrath" Grins Sep 2020 #7
Ivana said Trump kept book of Hitler speeches at bedside Cicada Sep 2020 #8
And where's Pug Henry when we need him? greatauntoftriplets Sep 2020 #9
yes indeed NRaleighLiberal Sep 2020 #10

Desert_Leslie

(131 posts)
3. The Splendid and the Vile
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 10:08 AM
Sep 2020

I'm reading "The Splendid and the Vile" by Erik Larson. It details the earliest days of World War II in Britain, concentrating on Churchill, his family and close associates. What a wonderful book! A real page turner.

The book includes quotes from Goebbels, Hitler's minister of propaganda, as he worked out his evil schemes. The phrases sound amazingly close to what has been said in the last four years by some members of our present government.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
4. Hitler's biographers relate that Hitler possessed an awkward bourgeois charm in person.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 10:16 AM
Sep 2020

Wouk wrote about that in detail.

Trump doesn't even have that. He's just a crass pig.

Grins

(7,199 posts)
7. My re-read: "The Grapes of Wrath"
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 10:22 AM
Sep 2020

I think of Oakies then and migrants on southern border now.

And police/sheriff’s knuckling the poors to help the Calif. landowners.

Remember Tom Joad’s soliloquy at the end?

”I'll be all around in the dark. I'll be everywhere. Wherever you can look—wherever there's a fight so hungry people can eat, I'll be there. Wherever there's a cop beatin' up a guy, I'll be there....”

After that, my next will be Arthur Miller’s play “The Crucible.”

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
8. Ivana said Trump kept book of Hitler speeches at bedside
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 10:32 AM
Sep 2020

I have always thought Trump’s strategy was informed By Hitlers political career

greatauntoftriplets

(175,729 posts)
9. And where's Pug Henry when we need him?
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:15 PM
Sep 2020

Seriously, I've read those books many times. Also watched the excellent mini-series made from them during the 1980s. I probably learned more about WWII history from Herman Wouk than I ever did in school -- and I was half a history major (double major).

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
10. yes indeed
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:19 PM
Sep 2020

yup. we've watched it twice, read it several times, now listening as an audiobook for the second time.

Where's Pug indeed???

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