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Barr arrests our political leaders or releases false documents that makes it appear they are guilty of something.
Please stay home, wait and vote, then if it all goes to shit after NOv 3, all bets are off I guess but dont give Barr and his boss putin and trump what they want.
Our political leaders, democrats/patriots are not guilty of anything, of course, but...stay tuned.
ps
Being reported nOw Barr wanted to use microwave HEAT RAYS on PEACEFUL PROTESTERS
But I am the CT suggesting he might do this
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PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,841 posts)But if it does, and we don't protest, we will be complicit in those things. We need to make it extremely loud and clear that it's wrong and we won't stand for it.
sweetloukillbot
(11,006 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)WE wait, WE VOTE and then if they still take over with fascism we then do something. But we have to get past the election
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(719 posts)MILITARY backing you up & unless the Moon SUDDENLY turns into Neufchatel cheese within the next 6 weeks, AT LEAST 90% of the military LOATHES them!! So, I'm NOT too worried about that happening. Now, spots of racist & batshit crazy violence spurred on by the ultimate in stochastic terroristic threat sewage pipe, dump? That there IS something that they'll try.
WON'T END WELL FOR THEM but they'll try it...
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)The_REAL_Ecumenist
(719 posts)Pacific Northwest to the East Coast...From the Canadian border to the Mexican & the Gulf; from GUAM, HAWAII, OKINAWA, KOREA, European posts, etc. There are some that MIGHT have had his back UNTIL everything fromCoV19 to fucking with the Post, (the LARGEST employer of Vets), to the denigration of their service & their sacrifices. Do I need to talk about his trying to defund STARS & STRIPES? How about the POSTAL slowing affecting the Meds they NEED because of the disabilities & illnesses growing out of their svcs? How about their extended family & friends losing the BASIC abilities to be employed, housed & being able to EAT because of this ASSHOLE'S fucking up the COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY RUNAWAY PLANDEMIC?
I'll also tell you this: these are folks from ALL 5 BRANCHES, NAVY, ARMY, USAF, MARINES & COAST GUARD! i HEAR THESE PEOPLE TALK, i hear the things they say privately that WOULD DEFINITELY get them more than a few visits from Secret SVCS. My husband, my brother, my cousins, my uncles, my father, Grandfather ALL VETS. in wars & clashes from WWII to Afghanistan, Kosovo, etc. ARE YOU SERIOUS!! I'm NOT just talking nonsensical bullshit...I KNOW WTF I'm saying.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)This is not fox news
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/military-times-poll-38-of-active-duty-troops-have-favorable-view-of-trump
38% and I have seen several (one for sure, will try and find it) where it is higher
And here it is worse
https://morningconsult.com/2020/09/10/2020-military-voters-trump-biden-polling/
Hey, I dont know what the hundreds of thousands of armed active military and city, county, state and federal police forces (over a million for sure) will do if a THIRD of them approximately are white supremacists who are loyal to traitor. But I think we should wonder.
Also, dont react to them until AFTER the election...we have to vote.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(719 posts)signed up to GET THE BENEFITS, (college, etc). they're aware that unless they DIE, they'll be VETS after they leave active Duty. So, in a VERY REAL WAY, it doesn't really fucking matter. I'll reiterate, BOTH ACTIVE & VETERANS LOATHE this ORANGE BITCH!!! There have been so many I know of who've been 5150'd because they were trying to take their own lives, because their families have to depend on food closets to EAT, ad nauseam.
Another thing to remember, ALOT of active military ARE NOT GOING TO ANSWER POLLS, Trust & believe me on that. They play it CLOSE to the chest, ESPECIALLY NOW, due to so much betrayal & not knowing who to trust. How many ACTIVE &/or Vets are you close to? FORTUNATELY or UNFORTUNATELY, depending on how you look at it, I'm LITERALLY surrounded by them . Take those polls, at least as they apply to the military vote with a HUGE boulder of salt & about 1 BAIKAL of Holy Water. Most of these folks are NOT going to reveal themselves to pollsters etc, I know. Alot of them are PARANOID because they know that they are basically cannon fodder but have NO respect for the fat idiot who looks at them as human meatballs.
Thekaspervote
(32,754 posts)Several open letters were written by the big brass to the men and women in uniform following the DC protests reminding them of the difference between an illegal order and a legal order. They were making it as clear as they possibly could..DO NOT follow this guy into something that you will not be able to get out of!
Tammy Duckworth has addressed this issue as well.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)putin takeover and military rank and file wont, but to suggest it wont happen out of hand like that is ...
sigh
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Can yup provide any objective evidence at all supporting your initial (I use the word loosely) hypothesis?
Not post hoc logical fallacies, but actual objective, measurable evidence that leads to your premise only while simultaneously denying any other hypotheses.
You know... the rational thought and scientific method of the Enlightenment rather than religious prophecies and carnival barking of the medieval troubadour.
Sigh, indeed.
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Thekaspervote
(32,754 posts)Every dark doom and gloom scenario.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(719 posts)MILITARY would obey that OBESE ORANGE ASSHOLE! He's has BETRAYED his vow to protect the Constitution, the country, Democracy & the AMERICAN CITIZENRY HE WAS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT, FFS!! I'm not saying that there aren't any racist & seditious morons in the military but trust me when I say that should they try something, "It ain't going to go so good", as my uncle used to say.
This just proves what I was telling people back in '16. He's a sociopath.
Celerity
(43,304 posts)Stay safe Eliot, I always enjoy your passion.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)very high up Dems are guilty of something.
Sigh...it is simple, the SAME small group of people ATTACK AND BASH me and I know why.
I just hope that group is gonna vote for Joe...but I have my doubts. I get ATTACKED AND BASHED at other media sites, by a select few who all have ONE thing in common.
Oh and thanks for supporting me...all I have ever done here is support Democrats...that is ALL I do here, other than make very accurate predictions...anybody could do it, just imagine what is the worst they could do and then predict they will do that.
Celerity
(43,304 posts)nightmare. I just have hope we can muddle through it. A chief fear of mine is that based off same-day voting the map is going to look like one giant sea of red, and then Rump et al. claim victory and try ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to fuck up the mail-in ballots, plus Rump whips the millions of lunatics into a murderous rage.
The very norms and boundaries of collective society, as fucked up as they have been for many us, are being shredded to a point of no return. The concept of objective truth itself is being eviscerated, utterly atomised, right before our eyes for 100 million plus of our fellow citizens.
Trump, McConnell, and Barr are the 3 biggest traitors since the Civil War. They are destroying the union of the States and the rule of law.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)IN all honesty, can anyone think of anything?
Anything?
Celerity
(43,304 posts)We are careening towards the open maw of unprecedented evil. Tens of trillions spent to erect the largest, most sophisticated global military force in history, and that giant monster robot now has a 100% sociopathic, unbalanced, delusional brain plugged in at the controlling top.
The office of POTUS needs have a chainsaw taken to it and be VASTLY reduced in its power and scope. The fatal weakness was that the nation always assumed the hurdles and electoral barriers were so high that a madman/madwoman could never get near to grasping its awesome levers of power. Now that terrible event has occurred. IF Trump some steals it again, and the Rethugs maintain Senate control, and maybe even steal back the House, it will take extra-constitutionals acts, more than likely, to remove the evil. I do not think those acts will occur, and even if they did, those extra-constitutional measures in and of themselves spell doom for the republic as we know it. It sounds cliched, but the only real hope is to soundly, thoroughly come out the victors in all 3 areas, the POTUS, the Senate, and the House.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)If there were no restraints Barr and Trump have already nuked a blue state by now, do people understand that? Or at a minimum declared martial law in blue states.
What the fuck is it with people who claim to be on the left who want to silence us when we warn how bad things can get just so people can be prepared?
A couple of years ago you and I would be chased away from you know where for making these comments but I made them and Im gonna keep making them.
Celerity
(43,304 posts)I assume you know that, but simply wanted to go on the record is anyone reads our colloquy.
Now, that said, if we go all hot civil war, who the hell knows, unfortunately.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Unclear.
JI7
(89,247 posts)SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)If they start jailing our people for political reasons and we don't fight it's over.
We should have been in the streets over Garland. I am done getting run over.