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Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:02 PM Sep 2020

McConnell will replace her during the lame duck session

No point rushing it through before the election as keeping the issue open will energize the GOP base.

I have a lot of respect for RBG, but she really fucked the country over by not retiring during Obama's second term.

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McConnell will replace her during the lame duck session (Original Post) Azathoth Sep 2020 OP
Agree on both points Proud liberal 80 Sep 2020 #1
I think it will energize the Democratic base. NoMoreRepugs Sep 2020 #2
Scalia died during Obama's 2nd term and McConnell held that up rurallib Sep 2020 #3
Democrats lost the Senate after 2014 midterms. muntrv Sep 2020 #5
Maybe, but then he'd have had to block two vacancies Azathoth Sep 2020 #6
we had senate control for years BGBD Sep 2020 #19
Exactly. moondust Sep 2020 #7
Obama appoint two justices, Sotomayor and Kagan. Moscow Mitch screwed the nation... brush Sep 2020 #15
I saw an interview with McConnell several months ago LuvNewcastle Sep 2020 #18
Its all about power. Nexus2 Sep 2020 #23
I agree rockfordfile Sep 2020 #4
He has about 2 weeks in November and 3 weeks in December Klaralven Sep 2020 #8
He'll keep the Senate running through Christmas Day if he has to Azathoth Sep 2020 #9
Maybe 51 senators would find they had more urgent things to do at home? Klaralven Sep 2020 #12
If they get him in before the election, it could influence decisions on anything to do with the RDANGELO Sep 2020 #10
And he or she will say "that's a hypothetical," and sit back in hir or her chair. The the mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 #21
They won't wait that long. The new nominee will have been confirmed and mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 #11
Nah, no need. That only hurts incumbents like Collins Azathoth Sep 2020 #14
Maybe in a normal year, but this is 2020. Think of all the other things that have gone haywire mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 #20
Well, if we're going by "Stephen King plots that haven't happen yet in 2020" Azathoth Sep 2020 #22
Agree, but with a bit of hope for our country kozar Sep 2020 #13
We need to score a big Senate majority in November. It may scare McConnell off of taking action tritsofme Sep 2020 #16
That's our only hope, but frankly I doubt it will work without additional leverage Azathoth Sep 2020 #17
yes she did Skittles Sep 2020 #24
That was my thought as well Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2020 #25

rurallib

(62,401 posts)
3. Scalia died during Obama's 2nd term and McConnell held that up
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:05 PM
Sep 2020

Would he not have done the same for Ginsburg?

I can't remember the makeup of the senate 2013 - 2015 but I would bet McConnell would have moved mountains to stop Obama replacing anyone.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
6. Maybe, but then he'd have had to block two vacancies
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:08 PM
Sep 2020

Besides, let's be honest, she didn't have to wait till his last year, she was already 80 when he got reelected. She should have retired the day after he won reelection.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
19. we had senate control for years
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:22 PM
Sep 2020

she should have retired then. She had already survived cancer by that point.

moondust

(19,966 posts)
7. Exactly.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:08 PM
Sep 2020

The theory I posted in another thread:

She planned to retire in 2016 so Obama could appoint a replacement. She didn't know Moscow Mitch had an evil trick up his sleeve.

Scalia died in February 2016 and Moscow Mitch killed the process with his (unconstitutional?) "election year" appointment bullshit. After that she knew he wouldn't let Obama appoint anyone else and she would have to try to make it through another 4 years.

brush

(53,758 posts)
15. Obama appoint two justices, Sotomayor and Kagan. Moscow Mitch screwed the nation...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:16 PM
Sep 2020

by not allowing his third appointee.

LuvNewcastle

(16,843 posts)
18. I saw an interview with McConnell several months ago
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:20 PM
Sep 2020

in which a reporter asked him point blank if he would have replaced a liberal justice with a Republican President in office. He said, without even thinking about it, that he would. The reporter asked him how he could justify that and he said that it was all about gaining and holding on to power. Those weren't his exact words, but it's close.

That's just how McConnell is. You can't expect him to do the honorable thing unless you have some blackmail on him or you have something he wants more to trade for the USSC seat. McConnell makes me believe in time travel, because I think he went back in time to teach Machiavelli lessons.

Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
23. Its all about power.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:32 PM
Sep 2020

You can tell from the nonstop project. Trump is always whining about rigged scams and hoaxes (lies) and they're his primary M.O. McConnell calls everything a Power Grab in the same way.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
9. He'll keep the Senate running through Christmas Day if he has to
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:10 PM
Sep 2020

This is the moment the right-wing has awaited for 50 years.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
12. Maybe 51 senators would find they had more urgent things to do at home?
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:13 PM
Sep 2020

They might not all be nuts, especially if they are going to have to work with Schumer in January.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
10. If they get him in before the election, it could influence decisions on anything to do with the
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:13 PM
Sep 2020

election, such as trying to stop the counting of mail in ballots. If they do that, the Democrats need to try to get the nominee to commit to recusing himself on any eminent issues.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,359 posts)
21. And he or she will say "that's a hypothetical," and sit back in hir or her chair. The the
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:26 PM
Sep 2020

confirmation will go right ahead anyway.

This is a lost cause.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
14. Nah, no need. That only hurts incumbents like Collins
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:15 PM
Sep 2020

The knife will go in after the election, when his caucus has nothing to lose.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,359 posts)
20. Maybe in a normal year, but this is 2020. Think of all the other things that have gone haywire
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:24 PM
Sep 2020

in 2020. Having a new justice in place before the election is just the maraschino cherry on the whipped cream on the chocolate sauce on the ice cream in the sundae.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
22. Well, if we're going by "Stephen King plots that haven't happen yet in 2020"
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:27 PM
Sep 2020

Then yes, you're probably right.

kozar

(2,102 posts)
13. Agree, but with a bit of hope for our country
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:14 PM
Sep 2020

We only need a few semi-sane senators to flip, even in lame duck.. maybe,just maybe if we try kick the orange ass to hell,, we can find some heroes for America,, they will still have majority.. i know,I am hoping against hope. Murkoski already said today she would not vote until post inauguration, theres 1,


Koz

tritsofme

(17,372 posts)
16. We need to score a big Senate majority in November. It may scare McConnell off of taking action
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:17 PM
Sep 2020

in the lame duck.

If Republicans retain the Senate or there is only a small Democratic majority in the next Congress, you can count on McConnell confirming Barrett in the lame duck.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
17. That's our only hope, but frankly I doubt it will work without additional leverage
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:20 PM
Sep 2020

If we win both Houses, Schumer needs to make it clear to McConnell that if he goes ahead during the lame duck session, then Dems will abolish the filibuster entirely and pack the Court.

We're literally down to the nuclear deterrent.

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