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global1

(25,241 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:37 AM Sep 2020

When Did Trump Comment On Appointing Ted Cruz To SCOTUS And Why.....

did he make those comments so close to the election? Did he know something about RBG's condition that led him to believe that he'd have the opportunity to make and appointment? Or was there something more sinister going on in his mind?

I know that RBG was really sick and in the hospital a couple of times in the last month or so. But she's a strong willed lady and I would have believed that she would have clung on to life until after Nov 3rd.

Maybe the Dems need to call for a complete Tox Report on RBG before any action can be taken to fill her position. Remember - the Russians are supposed to be helping Trump get re-elected. And how does Putin deal with situations such as these?

Yes - I have my tin-foil hat on tight this a.m..

Trump is either the luckiest man on earth or he's sold his soul to the devil or maybe the other way around - Trump sold a soul to the devil. You know what a con man he is.

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When Did Trump Comment On Appointing Ted Cruz To SCOTUS And Why..... (Original Post) global1 Sep 2020 OP
No hat needed Hstch05 Sep 2020 #1
Your Comments Here Sound Pausible - But..... global1 Sep 2020 #6
Sure, why not? moondust Sep 2020 #2
Wake up and call a spade a spade, not a gardening tool CommonHumanity Sep 2020 #3
SCOTUS short list Colleen8406 Sep 2020 #4
welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2020 #18
Yes, it was posted to DU on the 9th. Cruz, Tom Cotton and others. Frustratedlady Sep 2020 #5
Now That RBG Has Passed - This List Will Get A Great Deal Of Play In The Media.... global1 Sep 2020 #7
Florida is where Bloomberg put his $100M for Biden. Frustratedlady Sep 2020 #8
Note that these names were additions to existing lists. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 #14
Cotton went to Harvard? Jesus. themaguffin Sep 2020 #16
No way are they giving up a Senate seat by nominating Cruz! That was crowd talk,will appoint a woman Baclava Sep 2020 #9
Can't you think of more productive actions you can take to honor RBG SharonClark Sep 2020 #10
Tell Me Thoughts Like This Didn't Cross Your Mind - Even For A Minute..... global1 Sep 2020 #12
Look, it didn't take a genius to get detailed info on RBG's condition. Many in the media and.... machoneman Sep 2020 #11
Oh my your words sound like mine thinkingagain Sep 2020 #13
It was clear that she didn't have much time. When the recent news the summer came out. I hoped themaguffin Sep 2020 #15
There were earlier lists. Here are the links: mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 #17

Hstch05

(219 posts)
1. No hat needed
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:54 AM
Sep 2020

For a big city, Washington is a small town. I'm sure The White House knew how sick Justice Ginsburg was before floating that list last week. Which, you know, is right in line with their particular brand of horrible.

Her strong will had her hanging on for almost 4 years beyond when she wanted to retire. Pancreatic cancer is a killer. It's @ 80% mortality rate. Add that to her history of cancer (Lung cancer, early stage pancreatic cancer back in the late 90's) and it's phenomenally unlikely that Russia took out a sitting Supreme Court Justice. It's too risky even for Putin.

That being said, I'm sure there will be a autopsy.

And Trump couldn't sell stakes to the hungry, water to the thirsty, or wine to alcoholics. This isn't some master plan, this is September 2020, the 6th month of the pandemic. Maybe we'll catch a break in October...

global1

(25,241 posts)
6. Your Comments Here Sound Pausible - But.....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:15 AM
Sep 2020

how am I not to believe that you might be working for the other side and are just trying to throw us off the trail? You are relatively new to DU.

And it sure didn't take long for Moscow Mitch to put the talking points letter out to his fellow Repug Senators after RBG passed. Almost like that letter was prepared before hand and ready and waiting to go out. The talking points in the his letter sounded pretty well thought out and not rushed and put together in such a short time between RBG's passing and his distribution of that letter.

I'm sorry - but the way Trump has compromised the government agencies and the way he has everyone that is in the Party and anyone working for his administration scared of him - what else am I to think?

I've been demoralized by Trump, Moscow Mitch and the whole Repug Party over the last 4 years. How am I to not believe that this is just more of their demoralization going on?

And haven't we been warned that the Russians are helping him out in 2020 just like they did in 2016?

moondust

(19,972 posts)
2. Sure, why not?
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:02 AM
Sep 2020

I suggested as much last night and was told not to go there. The timing can be seen as suspicious considering the Putin connection.

CommonHumanity

(246 posts)
3. Wake up and call a spade a spade, not a gardening tool
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:09 AM
Sep 2020

You do not have your tinfoil hat on!

Like you, I am cautious about not sounding like a conspiracy nut. I preface my logically drawn conclusions with "I'm not into conspiracy theories or anything, it is just that.....". The "just that" usually refers to a perfectly logically drawn conclusion.

Given what we know about Shitler's need to stay in office or end up in jail, the far right's agenda for the supreme court, and the way Shitler's pal Putin deals with threats to his power logical observers must suspect foul play. We can't be so afraid of sounding like kookie conspiracy nuts that we fail to put two and two together.

If the shoe were on the other foot the right-wing democracy haters would be shouting accusations from the roof of the Fox news building. And the accusations would be false because democrats, although capable of corruption, believe in the rule of law (okay with some transgressions, but politics is politics and you get my point).

The grifters in the white house and their international band of greedy power-hungry thieves stop at nothing in consolidating their power. It is not tinfoil hat territory to imagine them rubbing their greedy hands together and saying it was like taking candy from a baby. All the while knowing that the democracy lovers are too upright to accuse them of things they do in near broad daylight. They will stop at nothing in their lust for power and we deny that fact to our detriment. Let's call a spade a spade, not a gardening tool.

Colleen8406

(13 posts)
4. SCOTUS short list
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:48 AM
Sep 2020

The WH published its short list of nominees last week. They definitely knew this was coming.

global1

(25,241 posts)
7. Now That RBG Has Passed - This List Will Get A Great Deal Of Play In The Media....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:23 AM
Sep 2020

Which State does Trump really need to win in order to be re-elected? Which State is Bloomberg pumping in all that money? Hmmmm......

Is there a candidate on that list from Florida? My money is on that candidate as being the one Trump will nominate before the election. Even if in the end this person doesn't get passed the Senate - the talk in the MSM about this candidate prior to the election could generate a lot of Florida votes for Trump.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
8. Florida is where Bloomberg put his $100M for Biden.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:27 AM
Sep 2020

I just read where Trump pulled his ads in Florida. They must have grabbed too much money for their own use and are now running out. I can't imagine they'd be that stupid, but it wouldn't be the first time.

They started out with $1B?

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,411 posts)
14. Note that these names were additions to existing lists.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:30 AM
Sep 2020
The Names On Trump's List Of Potential Supreme Court Nominees
September 19, 2020 10:35 AM ET

KRISHNADEV CALAMUR Twitter

President Trump, who called Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg "a titan of the law," will be able to pick a successor for her from a list of nearly four dozen names that he updated Sept. 9.

The most recent list, with three U.S. senators, was avowedly more political than the ones he previously released, both as a presidential candidate and as president. Trump's first two Supreme Court picks, Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, came from the president's earlier list.

His list also includes sitting judges, two past solicitors general and conservative lawyers. Trump has said his Supreme Court nominees will come from among these names:

{snip}

The first list is out there too.

Thanks. I'm going to copy that post now:

Thu Sep 10, 2020: Additions to Trump's Supreme Court List; September 9, 2020

STATEMENTS & RELEASES

Additions to President Donald J. Trump’s Supreme Court List
LAW & JUSTICE

Issued on: September 9, 2020

Today, President Donald J. Trump announced the following additions to his Supreme Court List:

Bridget Bade is a Judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Prior to her appointment in 2019, Judge Bade was a United States Magistrate Judge for the District of Arizona and an Assistant United States Attorney for the District of Arizona. Judge Bade served as a law clerk to Judge Edith H. Jones of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. Judge Bade earned her B.A., summa cum laude, from Arizona State University and her J.D., cum laude, from Arizona State University’s Sandra Day O’Connor College of Law.

Daniel Cameron is the 51st Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Before his election in 2019, Attorney General Cameron practiced law with Frost Brown Todd, LLC and served as Legal Counsel to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. He served as a law clerk to Judge Gregory F. Van Tatenhove of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky. Attorney General Cameron received his B.S. from the University of Louisville and his J.D., cum laude, from the University of Louisville Brandeis School of Law.

Tom Cotton is a United States Senator for the State of Arkansas. Prior to his election in 2014, Senator Cotton served as a Member in the United States House of Representatives and in the United States Army, rising to the rank of Captain while serving in both Iraq with the 101st Airborne and in Afghanistan with a Provincial Reconstruction Team. Prior to his military service, Senator Cotton practiced law at Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher, LLP. Senator Cotton served as a law clerk to Judge Jerry Smith of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. He received his A.B., magna cum laude, from Harvard College and his J.D. from Harvard Law School.

Paul Clement is a partner with Kirkland & Ellis, LLP. He previously served as Solicitor General of the United States and has argued over 100 cases before the Supreme Court of the United States. He served as a law clerk to Justice Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court of the United States and Judge Laurence Silberman on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Mr. Clement received his B.S.F.S., summa cum laude, from the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service; his M.Phil. from Cambridge University; and his J.D., magna cum laude, from Harvard Law School.

Ted Cruz is a United States Senator for the State of Texas. Prior to his election in 2012, Senator Cruz was a partner at Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, LLP and served as Solicitor General of Texas. Senator Cruz served as a law clerk to Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist on the Supreme Court of the United States and Judge J. Michael Luttig on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. Senator Cruz received his A.B., cum laude, from Princeton University and his J.D., magna cum laude, from Harvard Law School.

Stuart Kyle Duncan is a Judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. Before his appointment in 2018, he was a partner at Schaerr Duncan, LLP and General Counsel of the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty. Earlier in his career, Judge Duncan served as Solicitor General of Louisiana. Judge Duncan served as a law clerk to Judge John M. Duhé, Jr., of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. He received his B.A., summa cum laude, from Louisiana State University; his J.D. from the Paul M. Hebert Law Center at Louisiana State University; and his LL.M. from Columbia University Law School.

Steven Engel is the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel of the United States Department of Justice. Prior to his appointment in 2017, Mr. Engel was a partner with Dechert, LLP and previously served in the Office of Legal Counsel as Deputy Assistant Attorney General. Mr. Engel served as a law clerk to Justice Anthony Kennedy on the Supreme Court of the United States and to Judge Alex Kozinski on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Mr. Engel earned his A.B., summa cum laude, from Harvard College; his M. Phil. from Cambridge University; and his J.D. from Yale Law School.

Noel Francisco is the former Solicitor General of the United States. Prior to his appointment in 2017, Mr. Francisco was a partner at Jones Day and served in the Office of Legal Counsel as Deputy Assistant Attorney General and as Associate Counsel to the President. Mr. Francisco served as a law clerk to Justice Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court of the United States and Judge J. Michael Luttig on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. Mr. Francisco received his B.A., with honors, from the University of Chicago and his J.D., with high honors, from the University of Chicago Law School.

Josh Hawley is a United States Senator for the State of Missouri. Prior to his election in 2018, Senator Hawley served as Attorney General of the State of Missouri, was an Associate Professor at the University of Missouri School of Law, and was an attorney with the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty. Senator Hawley served as a law clerk to Chief Justice John Roberts on the Supreme Court of the United States and Judge Michael McConnell on the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit. He received his B.A., with honors, from Stanford University and his J.D. from Yale Law School.

James Ho is a Judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. Prior to his appointment in 2018, Judge Ho was a partner at Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher, LLP and served as Solicitor General of Texas. Judge Ho clerked for Justice Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court of the United States and Judge Jerry Smith of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. He received his B.A., with honors, from Stanford University and his J.D., with high honors, from the University of Chicago Law School.

Gregory Katsas is a Judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Prior to his appointment in 2017, Judge Katsas served as Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Counsel to the President. He was previously a partner at Jones Day and served in senior positions in the United States Department of Justice, including as Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division and Acting Associate Attorney General. Judge Katsas served as a law clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas, both at the Supreme Court of the United and the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, and to Judge Edward Becker of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. Judge Katsas earned his A.B., cum laude, from Princeton University and his J.D., cum laude, from Harvard Law School.

Barbara Lagoa is a Judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit. Before her appointment in 2019, Judge Lagoa was a Justice on the Supreme Court of Florida. She also served as District Judge on the Florida Third District Court of Appeal and as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of Florida. Judge Lagoa earned her B.A., cum laude, from Florida International University and her J.D. from Columbia Law School.

Christopher Landau is the Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the United States of America to the United Mexican States. Prior to his appointment in 2019, Ambassador Landau was a partner with Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, LLP and, before that, headed the Appellate Litigation Practice Group at Kirkland & Ellis, LLP. Ambassador Landau served as a law clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas, both on the Supreme Court of the United States and the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, and to Justice Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court of the United States. He received his A.B., summa cum laude, from Harvard College and his J.D., magna cum laude, from Harvard Law School.

Carlos Muñiz is a Justice on the Supreme Court of Florida. Prior to his appointment in 2019, Justice Muñiz served as General Counsel to the United States Department of Education and in various positions in the Florida State government, including as Deputy Attorney General and Chief of Staff to Attorney General Pam Bondi. Justice Muñiz served as a law clerk to Judge Jose Cabranes on the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and to Judge Thomas Flannery on the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. Justice Muñiz received his B.A., with high honors, from the University of Virginia and his J.D. from Yale Law School.

Martha Pacold is a Judge on the United States District Court for the Northern District of Illinois. Prior to her appointment in 2019, Judge Pacold served as both Deputy General Counsel of the Department of the Treasury. Earlier in her career, Judge Pacold was a partner at Bartlit Beck Herman Palenchar & Scott, LLP and served as Counsel to the Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice. Judge Pacold served as a law clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court of the United States, to Judge Jay Bybee of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, and to Judge A. Raymond Randolph of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Judge Pacold earned her B.A., with highest distinction, from Indiana University, and her J.D., with honors, from the University of Chicago Law School.

Peter Phipps is a Judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. Prior to his elevation in 2019, Judge Phipps served as United States District Judge for the Western District of Pennsylvania. Before taking the bench, Judge Phipps served as Senior Trial Counsel in the Federal Programs Branch of the Civil Division at the United States Department of Justice. Judge Phipps served as a law clerk to Judge R. Guy Cole, Jr., of the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit. He earned both his B.S. and his B.A., summa cum laude, from the University of Dayton and his J.D. from Stanford Law School.

Sarah Pitlyk is a Judge on the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri. Prior to her appointment in 2019, Judge Pitlyk was Special Counsel at the Thomas More Society and in private practice at Clark & Sauer, LLC. Ms. Pitlyk served as a law clerk to then-Judge Brett Kavanaugh of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. She received her B.A., summa cum laude, from Boston College; her M.A.’s from Georgetown University and the Katholieke Universiteit Leuven in Belgium; and her J.D. from Yale Law School.

Allison Jones Rushing is a Judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. Prior to her appointment in 2019, Judge Rushing was a partner at Williams & Connolly, LLP. Judge Rushing clerked for Justice Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court of the United States, Judge David Sentelle on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, and then-Judge Neil Gorsuch on the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit. Judge Rushing earned her B.A., summa cum laude, from Wake Forest University and her J.D., magna cum laude, from Duke University School of Law.

Kate Todd is Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Counsel to the President. Before her appointment in 2019, she served as Senior Vice President and Chief Counsel of the United States Chamber Litigation Center and as a partner at what was previously Wiley Rein & Fielding, LLP. Ms. Todd served as a law clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas of the Supreme Court of the United States and Judge J. Michael Luttig of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. Ms. Todd earned her B.A., with distinction, from Cornell University and her J.D., magna cum laude, from Harvard Law School.

Lawrence VanDyke is a Judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Prior to his appointment earlier this year, Judge VanDyke served as Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Environment and Natural Resources Division of the United States Department of Justice. Earlier in his career, Judge VanDyke served as both Solicitor General of Nevada and Solicitor General of Montana. Judge VanDyke served as a law clerk to Judge Janice Rogers Brown of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. He earned his B.S., with highest honors, from Montana State University; his B.Th., summa cum laude, from Bear Valley Bible Institute; and his J.D., magna cum laude, from Harvard Law School.

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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
9. No way are they giving up a Senate seat by nominating Cruz! That was crowd talk,will appoint a woman
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:30 AM
Sep 2020

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
10. Can't you think of more productive actions you can take to honor RBG
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:31 AM
Sep 2020

and help Biden and other Dems wins in November than promoting tin-foil-hat nonsense?

global1

(25,241 posts)
12. Tell Me Thoughts Like This Didn't Cross Your Mind - Even For A Minute.....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:05 PM
Sep 2020

when you heard the news of her passing.

These last four years the word that has come up most often is 'unprecedented'.

I never even imagined a pandemic would cripple us. I still can't believe so many American's follow this con artist.

Sometimes (and particularly in this time in our history) tin-foil-hat nonsense is very plausible - or may I say - 'unprecedented'.

I posted here a number of times that what we're going through and what we've been through these last 4 years plays like a fictional Ian Flemming James Bond novel - except that everything that has happened or is happening is really happening and in real time and not fictional.

I was crushed yesterday when I heard the news of RBG's passing. My first reaction was - why couldn't she just hold out for another 45 days? I'm saddened. I really respected and admired this great lady.

As far as productive actions for me - between now and the election - I will be safely campaigning - anyway I can - during this pandemic to get Biden-Harris elected and to maintain the House and win the Senate. I will be doing my part.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
11. Look, it didn't take a genius to get detailed info on RBG's condition. Many in the media and....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:33 AM
Sep 2020

government were closely watching her and no doubt, some winger doctors, nurses, staff leaked her failing health all along to Trumpsist and McTurtle in particular.

thinkingagain

(906 posts)
13. Oh my your words sound like mine
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:11 PM
Sep 2020

In fact back back when he announced his “list” I was like what does he know.
I know she had lots stuff going on.
But didn’t “he” recently promise an October suprise? Maybe it came early.
As for selling his Soul to the devil I’ve thought that for a while.
Besides why can’t we think that he did something? Didn’t the Gop think Obama did to Scalia ?
Maybe if “he” hadn’t put out his picks the thoughts wouldn’t be there that he had something to do with her death.
It is almost like “nice house you have there shame if something was to happen to it” and then shortly after it burns down even if it was taken out by a
Lighting strike you’d think “ how did he do that”

themaguffin

(3,826 posts)
15. It was clear that she didn't have much time. When the recent news the summer came out. I hoped
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:33 AM
Sep 2020

that she would make until January.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,411 posts)
17. There were earlier lists. Here are the links:
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:44 AM
Sep 2020

Sun Sep 20, 2020: There were earlier lists. Here are the links:

Amy Howe Independent Contractor and Reporter

Posted Wed, September 9th, 2020 6:18 pm

Trump releases new list of potential Supreme Court nominees

{snip}

With just under two months remaining before the 2020 presidential election, President Donald Trump on Wednesday released a new list of potential Supreme Court nominees – his fourth such list since 2016. The announcement of the new list fulfilled a promise that the president made in a tweet in June, when Trump pledged not only to publish a “new list of Conservative Supreme Court Justice nominees” but also to fill any future vacancies on the court from that list. ... In a news conference at the White House, Trump announced 20 new additions to the existing list of potential nominees. Like the prior lists, the new potential nominees include sitting federal judges, but they also include two former U.S. solicitors general, three U.S. senators, senior White House and Department of Justice officials, and the current U.S. ambassador to Mexico.

Trump released his first list of 11 potential nominees in May 2016, when he was the presumptive Republican presidential nominee. In a statement at the time, Trump indicated that his list was “representative of the kind of constitutional principles I value.” At a time when the vacancy created by the death of Justice Antonin Scalia remained open, the list was widely regarded as an effort to reassure conservatives that, if elected, Trump would choose a conservative to fill that seat and any others that became open during his presidency.

Trump included 10 additional names on a second list, which he released in September 2016. The second list added (among others) Neil Gorsuch, then a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit, whom Trump later nominated to fill the Scalia vacancy on Jan. 31, 2017.

Trump announced a third list in November 2017. That list added five names – two women and three men – to the 21 whom Trump had previously announced. One noteworthy addition was Brett Kavanaugh, then a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Less than a year later, Trump nominated Kavanaugh in July 2018 to fill the vacancy created by the retirement of Justice Anthony Kennedy.

{snip}

This post was originally published at Howe on the Court.

Posted in Featured, What's Happening Now

Recommended Citation: Amy Howe, Trump releases new list of potential Supreme Court nominees, SCOTUSblog (Sep. 9, 2020, 6:18 PM), https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/09/trump-releases-new-list-of-potential-supreme-court-nominees/
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