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Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:03 PM Sep 2020

Why don't Democrats and liberals revere Dwight Eisenhower?

I've been learning a lot of about Dwight Eisenhower, particularly his presidency, and I don't understand why Democrats and liberals don't claim him as one of their own? Yes I know he was a Republican but that was in a different era and it's not unusual for parties to claim past figures as one of them. Lincoln is revered by Democrats and not really seen as a modern Republican. So why not Dwight? Republicans largely ignore him these days, so why don't we look to him as an inspiration? Sure he wasn't 100% aligned with every aspect of modern liberalism. He was president almost 70 years ago. But he did push for increased civil rights. He was a strong proponent of the UN. He warned against the dangers of the military industrial complex. He was a key figure in the defeat of fascism. He was tough as shit, which I think modern Democrats could use a bit more of. He is a giant in American history and his legacy is there for the taking. Why don't liberals seize the opportunity?

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Why don't Democrats and liberals revere Dwight Eisenhower? (Original Post) Dr. Jack Sep 2020 OP
'd love an Ike...but no such Republican exists right now. Trueblue Texan Sep 2020 #1
Fuck the Republicans. We need Democrats in the mold of Eisenhower Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #3
He's a mixed bag rockfordfile Sep 2020 #2
Because he's even before my history. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #4
Me, I like Ike. n/t Mister Ed Sep 2020 #5
Republicans don't ignore him. They just had a large monument marybourg Sep 2020 #6
I think the monument honors Eisenhower as a military leader and as... RussellCattle Sep 2020 #10
You think wrong. marybourg Sep 2020 #12
Google "Eisenhower Monument images" and see what comes up. There seems to be a decided.... RussellCattle Sep 2020 #22
I've seen videos panning over the whole thing. marybourg Sep 2020 #24
I see that I've made a mistake in responding to your comment. I should have recognized your... RussellCattle Sep 2020 #28
I share that absolutist view SlogginThroughIt Sep 2020 #31
I'd be interested in seeing how you respond to the comment made below by "brush". RussellCattle Sep 2020 #36
He appointed Earl Warren to the Supreme Court, but he turned out to be pretty liberal demosincebirth Sep 2020 #7
I don't know anyone, Democrats, Republicans or whatever who doesn't have respect for Eisenhower. Arkansas Granny Sep 2020 #8
He would nevber be a republican in today's republicanism MiniMe Sep 2020 #9
Neither would Ronnie Raygun. roamer65 Sep 2020 #23
He was also pro-labor. Republicans weren't so heinous back then. brush Sep 2020 #11
I've often thought that our Democratic candidates could do well at the debates by.... RussellCattle Sep 2020 #13
+1 crickets Sep 2020 #20
He also considered having Nixon dumped from the ticket in '52 Zambero Sep 2020 #14
Tricky Dick was Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #16
He twice defeated a far better man DavidDvorkin Sep 2020 #15
Revere? Why? I do respect him and his memory but I rarely revere anybody. Shrike47 Sep 2020 #17
He consolidated the gains of the New Deal and built the interstate highway system. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2020 #18
He is, quite frankly, ancient history at this point. MineralMan Sep 2020 #19
I don't revere Eisenhower, but I do respect him. crickets Sep 2020 #21
Ike is a vastly underrated president. Paladin Sep 2020 #25
he loosed nuclear power WhiteTara Sep 2020 #26
Think Mossadegh, Guatemala, Vietnam, Dulles brothers. Sneederbunk Sep 2020 #27
Yeah jcboon Sep 2020 #30
because he was a general? just a wild stab. nt BootinUp Sep 2020 #29
Eisenhower could have had either party's nomination in '52. Klaralven Sep 2020 #32
I too am an admirer of Eisenhower....he is VERY underrated. grobertj Sep 2020 #33
You ever hear of operation 'Wetback'? Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #35
Anyone who reveres this evil man should read up on Operation 'Wetback' Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #34

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
3. Fuck the Republicans. We need Democrats in the mold of Eisenhower
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:08 PM
Sep 2020

Claim his legacy and then build up Democrats as the modern party of Ike.

LakeArenal

(28,804 posts)
4. Because he's even before my history.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:09 PM
Sep 2020

I have many to revere in my own party.

My boss a Republican, never respected any employee, always refusing raises as “what have you done for me lately?”

So I say to Republicans, sure ancient history had some better republicans. But what have they done for me lately?

marybourg

(12,586 posts)
6. Republicans don't ignore him. They just had a large monument
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:12 PM
Sep 2020

to him put up in D.C. as a counterpoint to Dems campaigning successfully for a FDR monument.

We have plenty of our own labor, civil rights and human rights heroes. We don’t need to adopt publican military figures because they were “tough”.

RussellCattle

(1,530 posts)
10. I think the monument honors Eisenhower as a military leader and as...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:18 PM
Sep 2020

...."the boy from Kansas", with less emphasis on the presidency. Certainly no mention of his warning about the "military-industrial complex" from our Republican friends.

RussellCattle

(1,530 posts)
22. Google "Eisenhower Monument images" and see what comes up. There seems to be a decided....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:41 PM
Sep 2020

....emphasis on the left side of the monument which illustrates the war time general.

marybourg

(12,586 posts)
24. I've seen videos panning over the whole thing.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:49 PM
Sep 2020

I don’t know what your point really is, or even what the point if the O P is.

RussellCattle

(1,530 posts)
28. I see that I've made a mistake in responding to your comment. I should have recognized your...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:12 PM
Sep 2020

....absolutist take on all "publicans" and left it alone. Your comment about videos makes me wonder if you did the google search I suggested.

demosincebirth

(12,530 posts)
7. He appointed Earl Warren to the Supreme Court, but he turned out to be pretty liberal
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:13 PM
Sep 2020

As a Republican. He said that was the biggest mistake he made. Take this for what it’s worth.

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
8. I don't know anyone, Democrats, Republicans or whatever who doesn't have respect for Eisenhower.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:13 PM
Sep 2020

He was not like Republicans today.

MiniMe

(21,709 posts)
9. He would nevber be a republican in today's republicanism
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:14 PM
Sep 2020

I don't think Nixon would be a republican in today's republican's either.

brush

(53,743 posts)
11. He was also pro-labor. Republicans weren't so heinous back then.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:18 PM
Sep 2020

The following are straight from the Repulican Party Platform of 1956:

Provide federal assistance to low-income communities
Protect Social Security
Provide asylum for refugees
Extend minimum wage
Improve unemployment benefit system so it covers more people
Strengthen labor laws so workers can more easily join a union
Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of sex

Ike would be a centrist Dem today, maybe even center left.

RussellCattle

(1,530 posts)
13. I've often thought that our Democratic candidates could do well at the debates by....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:21 PM
Sep 2020

....quoting from Eisenhower or the Republican platform back in the fifties. This to illustrate how far astray their opponent and his party has gone.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
14. He also considered having Nixon dumped from the ticket in '52
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:22 PM
Sep 2020

Of course the "Checkers Speech" won the day for Tricky. Ike could smell a rat a mile away.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. Tricky Dick was
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:32 PM
Sep 2020

the scourge of Ike's Administration. Nixon created the Poison that continues in today's modern Politics. Joe McCarty and his Witch Hunt was not stamped out by Ike and that has left to this day,a sour spot with the Dem's.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
18. He consolidated the gains of the New Deal and built the interstate highway system.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:36 PM
Sep 2020

He consolidated the gains of the New Deal, sent federal troops to integrate Little Rock High School, and built the interstate highway system.

Top ten president.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
19. He is, quite frankly, ancient history at this point.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:37 PM
Sep 2020

I'm 75 years old. I remember Ike. In 1960, as a 15-year-old small town kid, I campaigned for JFK. That's ancient history now, too.

Ike was OK, in his own time. That time is not relevant to today, though. Nothing is anything like it was in the 1950s. We have work to do, and looking backward is not how we will do it, to be quite frank.

crickets

(25,952 posts)
21. I don't revere Eisenhower, but I do respect him.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:41 PM
Sep 2020

As with many presidents, and people in general, he made his fair share of mistakes. He is the only Republican president of recent memory for whom I have any real regard. For many of the reasons you and others cite, and especially for his farewell speech, I hold him in a place of genuine respect overall.

WhiteTara

(29,692 posts)
26. he loosed nuclear power
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:59 PM
Sep 2020

into the world, calling it nukes for peace. He's famous for saying we should watch out for the military-industrial complex. During his years, the famous 3 martini lunch was the norm and sloppy contractors built our facilities.

Also, he wasn't exciting.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
32. Eisenhower could have had either party's nomination in '52.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:04 PM
Sep 2020

His coattails only brought in a Republican Congress for two years, and he worked with a Democratic House and Senate for six.

grobertj

(187 posts)
33. I too am an admirer of Eisenhower....he is VERY underrated.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:16 PM
Sep 2020

If he ran today, he'd be described as a liberal.

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