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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
1. I like the idea of expanding, I am sick where we sit today, and pissed. Question, what stops Rep.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 01:52 PM
Sep 2020

from expanding the courts? I read a little of what it would take to do this, first time seeing the suggestion. But can anyone spell it out for me. We would have to have all three, Pres., House, Senate? Then I read someone suggest expand to 15 and add that it cannot be expanded or changed without like 3/4 vote. Is that correct?

But why wouldn't Republicans do this?

I really do not know much of anything the way this would work. I heard Markey as one of the first to suggest this.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
2. they would next time if we'll do it. We do 11, they do 15, then we'll do 21
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:01 PM
Sep 2020

there is no limit whatsoever until a new constitutional amendment is passed.

W_HAMILTON

(7,861 posts)
4. Yep.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:04 PM
Sep 2020

Which means there is no downside to it from our position at this point. Which do people think is the better alternative: we can lose the courts for a generation (if not longer) or we can win and reshape the courts in our favor with the knowledge that whoever turns out in each election going forward will be the ones that control the courts?

I mean, is this even a hard decision for people?

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
8. But that would be fair, to compensate for the seats
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:21 PM
Sep 2020

they stole. Going beyond would be deliberate stacking and acting like them. Maybe we'd get another vacancy during Biden's term.

Expanding the federal bench, as I think John Dean suggested, should also be on the table. That was needed anyway, and McConnell also stole lower court seats by not allowing Obama appointments.

Celerity

(43,299 posts)
11. yes, 15 is the correct number to go for, odd multiples of 3 is the expansion model, so 3, 9, 15, 21
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:13 PM
Sep 2020

hopefully we do not ever have to go to 21, as that is simply too many

15 is pushing it, but the Rethugs have forced our hand by going full stop partisan to the ultimate degree

11 doesn't get us back to the majority, and the very fact we increased it, but only by 2 gives the Rethugs a built is excuse to expand it to 13 or 15 (they will go for 15 if it is at 11, partially due to triskaidekaphobia and also to double the size of our increase, because that is the type of dominance play they so love) and further increase their majority.

all that said, I can see us doing the typical safe play and only going to 11 (due to the fact we can say it is simply to take back the two stolen seats)

DFW

(54,340 posts)
3. It's a drastic move. When JERRY advocates it, that means it is under SERIOUS consideration
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:04 PM
Sep 2020

And not just by Jerry.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
6. I heard it from Markey first, immediately and one other then Nadler today. Dems generally do not
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:06 PM
Sep 2020

throw stuff out. Then Pelosi said something about having arrow ready or whatever. I do not know arrow talk.

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