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(92,138 posts)DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)We were all warned.
Haunting to see that today.
triron
(21,999 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)The government I thought we could improve has been damaged so badly it may never recover. The pandemic we knew was coming and that Obama forestalled is here like a tsunami.
Resist. Never give up.
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)Seems like the reason they were so pissed about is the obvious reason: Truth Hurts.
In It to Win It
(8,236 posts)SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)I feel like everything I was raised to believe and know about this country is being thwarted by a small group of deplorables.
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)I mean it messes with that Trump's approval rating are as high as they are.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)The River
(2,615 posts)and influence potential voters. Call them names.
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)AZ8theist
(5,456 posts)question everything
(47,470 posts)because their candidate was not the nominee.
Thekaspervote
(32,755 posts)Tumbulu
(6,272 posts)I go more into loathing territory.
kairos12
(12,852 posts)Cozmo
(1,402 posts)The horror, the horror
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)at least in part. The shoe might pinch like hell -- but, if it fits ....
W_HAMILTON
(7,862 posts)jorgevlorgan
(8,289 posts)...as we are seeing.
Now that we are experiencing the apocalypse, Biden is the last thing between us and total and complete eradication.
triron
(21,999 posts)SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)NBachers
(17,107 posts)And who would she have appointed already?
I will never forgive; never forget.
Chainfire
(17,530 posts)RBG could have resigned early this year, and had her final months in peace. She fought as hard as she could for us, not for herself.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)triron
(21,999 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)The Libertarians and Greens are useful tools, and Jill Stein herself seems to be very knowing of what she did. Her campaign targeted specific weak spots and shaved off just enough votes for Hillary to lose the Electoral College prize in those states. The margin was astounding in its exactitude.
Leftish voters who just couldnt stomach Hillary after 30 years of lies aimed at her by the RW proved their purity and progressive bona fides by voting 3rd party. So yes, bad actors did bad things, but actual American voters played their part.
Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million over Trump, but lost the EC and thus the WH. The popular vote tells me the majority of Americans did NOT want Trump.
Tumbulu
(6,272 posts)No more purists for me anywhere anyhow.
I finally grew out of the concept.
oldsoftie
(12,531 posts)Two big differences between '16 and now; one, in '16 both candidates were not popular. Thats a fact told by many polls. Two, trump NOW has shown who he really is. A lot of trump voters only knew trump the TV star. Now they know the REAL trump. And some of them dont like what they see
Hekate
(90,645 posts)Polls schmolls.
Gods help us, because we are up against worse this time. Russia is still deep into all 50 states voter data and election systems. DeJoy has destroyed the USPS and isnt going to put it back together. Trump may have lost a few voters, but the rest are cultists with guns. Theres more, but Im not trying to make anyone despair and pull their blankets over their head.
Resist. GOTV. Never surrender.
Hav
(5,969 posts)and for some it's hard to accept and acknowledge that actions have consequences.
dalton99a
(81,451 posts)FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)and they were so smart to figure out that they'd get their revolution much faster with Trump. Apparently, sometimes you just have to burn down everything to the ground.
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)raccoon
(31,110 posts)agincourt
(1,996 posts)Lost in the flood of outrageous bullshit is the resumption of nuclear weapon testing and production. Treaties are also going down the drain, of course.
mcar
(42,302 posts)The "conscience" voters brought this disaster upon us.
Lonestarblue
(9,971 posts)And the media. Why? Because she is a bright, capable woman who dared to have ambitions reserved for men in this country and because she refused to bow under the pressure to conform to the sweet little housewife image. She dared to use her brain, so Republicans could not allow her to go unscathed. Books full of lies have been written about this woman. Every conspiracy theory imaginable has been created around her years in public life. No other woman has been so vilified, and again I ask why? Republicans created a false image of a crooked, grasping woman with corrupt intentions. And the media helped.
Im so tired Of the media using euphemisms, like conservative, to describe abhorrent attitudes toward women and minorities. Amy Johnson, one of the speakers at the RNC convention lied about late-term abortions, describing them as women delivering live babies and then murdering. That isnt conservative, thats sick. She has also written that every household should have only one vote and the man should decide who to vote for. That isnt conservative, its Christian radicalism that never gets called out by the media. Using the word conservative excuses all kinds of rabid behavior and attitudes, including white supremacy.
That is the Republican world, and its killing the US. They are making this a country that I no longer even want to live in. Which is why I will vote and will encourage everyone I know to vote. This is our last chance.
dlk
(11,552 posts)They are actively working toward a return to the Dark Ages for women and a religion-based government. Slick Republican operatives have successfully manipulated them for their own political ends. And the mainstream media, with their toxic bothsiderism has given them all a pass.
beerkoozie
(2 posts)Posting in response to overall vibe of this thread.
What are yall trying to accomplish by re-litigating 16 when were FORTY-FOUR days out from 20?
I mean, are yall that resigned to defeat or confident of victory, because certainly no one who thinks weve got work to do should be participating in this nonsense. Either get to work or get out the way with crap like this.
marble falls
(57,077 posts)dlk
(11,552 posts)Its ok to grieve this tremendous loss, however long it takes. Tens of thousands of Americans have died as a result.