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Trump admitted during his rally in North Carolina that he is planning on stealing the election (Original Post) UCmeNdc Sep 2020 OP
Vote early - in person. mzmolly Sep 2020 #1
Some states only vote by mail. LisaL Sep 2020 #3
Vote early mzmolly Sep 2020 #8
Legally cast ballots should be counted. LisaL Sep 2020 #10
They should. mzmolly Sep 2020 #14
And will be. He can't get judges to interfere and start throwing out ballots. Such bull shit Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #24
Yes totally BS. FloridaBlues Sep 2020 #32
I'm glad you have confidence mzmolly Sep 2020 #42
Yes. Especially in the critical swing states, I think we have to vote early and in person. hedda_foil Sep 2020 #7
I agree. mzmolly Sep 2020 #11
What if Trump declares he only accepts votes cast on election day? LisaL Sep 2020 #13
What if we see the writing on the wall? mzmolly Sep 2020 #16
You don't see the writing on the wall. LisaL Sep 2020 #19
Are you suggesting that Trump mzmolly Sep 2020 #20
In my state, I am locked into voting absentee once I requested a ballot. LisaL Sep 2020 #21
In my state one can follow up to be sure votes are counted, and request another ballot if need be. mzmolly Sep 2020 #22
In OH, once I asked for absentee ballot, I have to vote absentee. LisaL Sep 2020 #25
Looks like you can also mzmolly Sep 2020 #28
I know I can track my absentee ballot. LisaL Sep 2020 #30
You've mzmolly Sep 2020 #33
Bingo. nt Blue_true Sep 2020 #39
Or that blue state votes don't count? durablend Sep 2020 #23
He already declared he wants to sign an executive order LisaL Sep 2020 #27
So you believe what you just wrote?? Really?? Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #47
Who gives a rats what he wants! Elections are run by the states. He has no legal grounds to stop Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #35
shitshow of shitshows dead ahead cap'n Celerity Sep 2020 #2
DUH . . Iliyah Sep 2020 #4
Like I said, prepare for a non USA situation soon... Eliot Rosewater Sep 2020 #5
Lock him up for theft! He's a damn crook anyway. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #6
He should be impeached again. Just for that statement alone. LisaL Sep 2020 #9
Agree. EOM mzmolly Sep 2020 #12
I think this is the first president that has tried to overthrow the US government. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #15
That would be funny if it weren't true soothsayer Sep 2020 #17
Very scary and really, in time, possibly a lot of truth to it. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #18
How would a federal court have jurisdiction over a state's ballots? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #26
Thank you!! A voice of sanity! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #36
Yes. Trump's understanding of our justice system is the same level as many on here... Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #38
Thank you!! Another voice of sanity Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #45
So we're partially reliant on who certifies mzmolly Sep 2020 #40
Doesn't the secretary of states do that not the federal courts? FloridaBlues Sep 2020 #29
Psycho is going to TRY to "Steal The Election". We Cha Sep 2020 #31
He doesn't want to talk about the pandemic so he says this crazy stuff for the media kimbutgar Sep 2020 #34
Thank God we have a Senate and SCOTUS that would stop him.. DemsIn2020 Sep 2020 #37
Impossible not to understand this will be attempted Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #41
Please stop!! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #46
Umm, yep! warmfeet Sep 2020 #43
He has been telling us how he will steal the election BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #44

mzmolly

(50,985 posts)
42. I'm glad you have confidence
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:01 PM
Sep 2020

in the process and local officials in all of the swing states. Admittedly, I do not.

hedda_foil

(16,372 posts)
7. Yes. Especially in the critical swing states, I think we have to vote early and in person.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:51 PM
Sep 2020

It sucks that people will have to take this extra risk, but I don't see any way around it as long as the monster is haunting the White House.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
13. What if Trump declares he only accepts votes cast on election day?
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:53 PM
Sep 2020

Are we going to keep jumping through hoops because of the crap he says?
I have nothing against voting early in person, by the way.
I am just saying, he clearly only wants to count the votes cast for him, regardless of how they were cast.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
19. You don't see the writing on the wall.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:58 PM
Sep 2020

People already requested a huge number of absentee ballots. For crying out loud, people in several states are already voting absentee.
It's a legal way to cast a ballot.

mzmolly

(50,985 posts)
20. Are you suggesting that Trump
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:01 PM
Sep 2020

cares what's legal? Or that his hand picked court(s) will not deliver for him?

I have also requested an absentee ballot. That doesn't preclude me from exercising other options.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
21. In my state, I am locked into voting absentee once I requested a ballot.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:05 PM
Sep 2020

I am not sure what your state allows you to do, but I now have to vote absentee. OH doesn't allow you to change your mind.

mzmolly

(50,985 posts)
22. In my state one can follow up to be sure votes are counted, and request another ballot if need be.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:08 PM
Sep 2020

Again I plan to vote in person regardless, but it's good to know what options are given who we're dealing with.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
30. I know I can track my absentee ballot.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:39 PM
Sep 2020

But I can't change my mind and not vote absentee once I requested it (which i did).

Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
35. Who gives a rats what he wants! Elections are run by the states. He has no legal grounds to stop
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:53 PM
Sep 2020

The counting of ballots...period!

Oh he may declare himself the winner...so what! doesn’t make it so

Biden has amassed a team of 600 attorneys to deal with any shenanigans. I think he’s got this covered.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
5. Like I said, prepare for a non USA situation soon...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:50 PM
Sep 2020

Does everybody understand we cant live in a place where the election was openly stolen and half the country and the GOP are good with it, we will have to DO SOMETHING, and that is the problem.

Doing nothing is not an option.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,585 posts)
26. How would a federal court have jurisdiction over a state's ballots?
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:27 PM
Sep 2020

Wouldn’t any litigation have to go through state court, all the way to the state’s Supreme Court, before getting appealed to SCOTUS. Isn’t that what happened in Florida in 2000?

If a state counts and certifies a result that is outside the margin for a recount, federal judges wouldn’t enter in the picture.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
38. Yes. Trump's understanding of our justice system is the same level as many on here...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:05 PM
Sep 2020

Litigation doesn't just jump to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court only heard the Florida case because the Bush team appealed the Florida Supreme Court's recount ruling - and even then, they still had some legal justification in doing so (deadlines + Gore was pushing only a partial recount, not a full recount).

Florida was an anomaly. It just was. You can have a thousand presidential elections and something like that probably won't happen in any of 'em.

What Trump is saying is he's going to go to the courts to discount mail-in ballots. Even conservative justices aren't going to just rule for him because, gosh, Trump is a Republican and appointed them so they must. There is no grounds to contest mail-in ballots through the courts systems. It just isn't going to happen. It's all bluster.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
31. Psycho is going to TRY to "Steal The Election". We
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:39 PM
Sep 2020

knew this but once Again the ASSHOLE's Mouth tells what a fucking Idiot he is.

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
34. He doesn't want to talk about the pandemic so he says this crazy stuff for the media
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:48 PM
Sep 2020

To fawn over. They fell for it in 2016 and this year they should know better. I’ve noticed the national network news is definitely pointing out his idiocy on a daily basis and keeping the pandemic in the news!

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
41. Impossible not to understand this will be attempted
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:41 PM
Sep 2020

Barr is not going to rant about buying and selling votes and then coast through the election without doing anything.

This was always going to be full Roy Cohn

Ballots will be seized and counting stopped. That's why I don't really care about polling anymore. Barr's statements last week were more relevant than polling.

This will be the 5th Avenue election. Trump doesn't care if you know he just shot democracy in the face

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
43. Umm, yep!
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:12 PM
Sep 2020

Been saying this like, forever.

We are now in the power paradigm. Bring your power, or live under the rule of the asshole and his minions. Not where I want to be, just where we are at.

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