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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:33 PM Sep 2020

To those who are counseling that the "Trump judges" were properly nominated and confirmed

and there is "nothing we can do about it" I say "There damn well BETTER be 'something' we can do because their sheer incompetence and fascistic attitudes WILL destroy the America we know and love"!

Take a look at his judicial appointments at https://www.ratfuckingthecourts.com/ and you will easily see that they fall into two categories: totally incompetent and inexperienced attorneys appointed solely because they had kissed Trump's ass OR competent ideologues whose life mission includes reversing Roe v. Wade, invalidating the ACA and putting women, people of color and non-Christians "in their place".

Serial impeachments? Lawsuits requesting annulment of their appointments due to the illegitimacy of Trump or the transparent malfeasance of McConnell et al? I do not profess to know HOW these judicial embarrassments must be removed, but I do know that they must be if we are to regain our democracy and our decency.

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To those who are counseling that the "Trump judges" were properly nominated and confirmed (Original Post) Atticus Sep 2020 OP
At the very minimum, there should be investigations on the very worst of these candidates DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #1
What type of investigation? forthemiddle Sep 2020 #15
Do you remember the famous "investigation" of Brett Kavanaugh by the FBI? DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #16
Impeachments are the only way to remove them DetroitLegalBeagle Sep 2020 #2
Yeah, that's a ways off. But we might be able to appoint adult supervision. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #12
No one is talking about impeachment DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #17
At very least, standardize the number of judges on federal Bettie Sep 2020 #24
I share your outrage but there no remedy that I can see short of expanding the court. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #3
+1 My thoughts are identical. Provide adult supervision of MAGAT judges. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #13
Yeah, maybe now some who didn't understand the importance of courts on our side will Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #18
It's too bad the American Bar Association appears to be almost worthless Mike 03 Sep 2020 #4
As an attorney if so had acted as Kavanaugh did during his confirmation hearing I would have been Pepsidog Sep 2020 #26
This country is broken. Moostache Sep 2020 #5
Agreed. Our institutions and professional organizations are so broken. Mike 03 Sep 2020 #7
You just described a fascist state very succinctly... Moostache Sep 2020 #10
Same with cops Bettie Sep 2020 #25
This is a post that keeps on giving DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #6
thanks for that! stillcool Sep 2020 #14
I think it will be very interesting to review the actual Justice Department-led investigation greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #8
If the turd gained office through cheating, lying, and stealing votes, with the help not_the_one Sep 2020 #9
Well, there's this... 2naSalit Sep 2020 #11
Thank you. I no longer feel like the Lone Ranger for saying ""something" must be done to Atticus Sep 2020 #19
Thanks for posting this. I just don't believe there's nothing Greybnk48 Sep 2020 #20
Glenn Kirschner is really on point lately. Thanks for posting this. nt crickets Sep 2020 #21
He's been on it for some time, this is six months ago. 2naSalit Sep 2020 #22
D'oh! Translation: I've started paying more attention to him lately. 🤭 crickets Sep 2020 #23
Probably 90% lied at their confirmation hearing CanonRay Sep 2020 #27

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
1. At the very minimum, there should be investigations on the very worst of these candidates
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:35 PM
Sep 2020

Everyone needs to understand that there will be a day of reckoning....sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Great post.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
15. What type of investigation?
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 02:10 PM
Sep 2020

I know that at least the two that have been talked about the most, (Amy Coney Barrett, and Barbara Lagoa), have both recently gone through Senate hearings, so vetted, and investigated. Both have been confirmed for lower courts in the past few years.

What other things could be discovered?

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
16. Do you remember the famous "investigation" of Brett Kavanaugh by the FBI?
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 02:13 PM
Sep 2020

...neither do I because there was none.

There were no real investigations for some of these nominees. Pick the most egregious ones and recall witnesses (or call them for the first time) to ensure appointee testimony under oath was accurate.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,922 posts)
2. Impeachments are the only way to remove them
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:37 PM
Sep 2020

Same process as with the President, including the 67 votes needed to convict and remove.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Yeah, that's a ways off. But we might be able to appoint adult supervision.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:59 PM
Sep 2020

Expand the courts; add 2 seats to every bench that has a MAGAT.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
17. No one is talking about impeachment
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 02:14 PM
Sep 2020

Just investigations where the confirmation process was clearly lacking. Then compare the results of that investigation with what the appointee said under oath.

Bettie

(16,090 posts)
24. At very least, standardize the number of judges on federal
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:11 PM
Sep 2020

appeals and district courts. Right now they vary and it makes sense to have a common number from one to the other.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
3. I share your outrage but there no remedy that I can see short of expanding the court.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:39 PM
Sep 2020

you need 67 votes in the Senate for impeachment assuming Justices can be impeached. I don't see us getting close to that number...the next time some are tempted to 'message vote' perhaps they will reconsider, and no I don't mean you. I know you would never do that. Elections have consequences...and given the age of the justices...what did such people expect?

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
18. Yeah, maybe now some who didn't understand the importance of courts on our side will
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 02:15 PM
Sep 2020

now understand why we must vote blue no matter what.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. It's too bad the American Bar Association appears to be almost worthless
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:42 PM
Sep 2020

Of course, the Republicans like the ABA when they side with them on a judge, but dismiss them when they assert that a judge is not qualified.

Look at this half-assed dogshit:

ABA committee gives Kavanaugh a well-qualified rating
https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/aba_committee_gives_kavanaugh_a_well-qualified_rating_hearings_begin_today

Bar Association Questioned Kavanaugh’s Temperament and Honesty in 2006
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/us/politics/kavanaugh-bar-association-aba.html

American Bar Association to reevaluate Kavanaugh’s high rating, citing his ‘temperament’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/05/american-bar-association-reevaluate-kavanaughs-high-rating-citing-his-temperament/

American Bar Association drops review of Kavanaugh
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/politics/kavanaugh-aba-review/index.html

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
26. As an attorney if so had acted as Kavanaugh did during his confirmation hearing I would have been
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:19 PM
Sep 2020

disciplined by the Ethics Board.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
5. This country is broken.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:48 PM
Sep 2020

It cannot be fixed with the same "rules" that allowed a minority party to seize control of all three branches of government despite:

LOSING the popular vote for POTUS 4 of the last 5 cycles.
BEING THE MINORITY in the US House of Representatives.
Polls showing 90% of Americans desiring action on gun control...and nothing is even brought to the Senate floor.
Polls showing 60+% of Americans desiring that Roe v. Wade be left as stands, and it is as good as dead now.
Polls showing 75% of Americans in favor of the Affordable Care Act (ACA, Obamacare) and it too is as dead as Dillinger.

Citizens United strips the common man of any voice in politics by granting cash and access to it as primary in this government.
Money is NOT speech.
People are NOT illegal.
Corporations are NOT people.

ALL of this carnage is due to the fact that one party in this "system" is hellbent on wielding power for the benefit of themselves and the money donors that fund them without regard to fairness, consistency, morals or the actual law itself.

The GOP acquitted Trump without even hearing witnesses...a 'trial' was held as much as I am the pope.
The GOP gutting voting rights and uses racism and hatred to gin up support among the dregs of this nation's dark underbelly.

There is no "fixing" this. This whole thing is in need of a makeover, a "do-over" if you will...

Restart from the position that ALL HUMANS ARE EQUAL - men, women, all races, all ages, all orientations, all religious proclivities - NO ONE is "illegal", NO ONE is "3/5ths of a person", NO ONE is entitled to use religious beliefs to abscond from following the law.

This nation is confederacy of states, loosely held together by the Federal government and badly in need of a Constitutional rewrite - or a flat out fracture down the Mississippi River and the Continental Divide. 20 years ago, we started wars for ideological reasons and lies and I believed that was as much as we could ever take and remain a United States of America. I was wrong...we have taken so much more in the intervening decades, but no more.

When Trump and McConnell ram-rod through another Justice to pack the SCOTUS, they have made the institution a kangaroo court of political bent and illegitimate intent. No longer is the Supreme Court the final arbiter of law, it is a small group of political hacks dedicated to minority rule in a so-called democratic Constitutional Republic. It is over.

Time to start over better.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
7. Agreed. Our institutions and professional organizations are so broken.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:54 PM
Sep 2020

If you're a doctor, you can kill patients and not get reported. You get fired and sent off to a new hospital with a good letter of recommendation. The hospitals just want to get rid of the terrible doctors; they don't really care where they end up or what happens to their patients.

The ABA doesn't patrol its own members. Lunatic judges get a pass.

This new investigation into banks laundering money is another example. So long as the financial institutions file their Suspicious Activity Reports they don't even get a slap on the wrist.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
10. You just described a fascist state very succinctly...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:58 PM
Sep 2020

This country does NOT belong to the people any longer...Lincoln is spinning in his grave along with the rest of the founders and great men who helped make America what it always was - a great IDEA.

We are only 40-some days away from a second stolen Trump election and the end of the experiment of government of the people, by the people and for the people. The GOP has already shown how little respect they have for the voters and citizens of the nation...they care about power and money and in that order. The "people" are merely an inconvenience to them.

It is going to be every man for himself again until this is all torn down and replaced. I doubt that it happens peacefully.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
6. This is a post that keeps on giving
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:54 PM
Sep 2020

Here's another great link I found in the link you posted where you can disclosures made some of the possible Trump appointees for RBG's seat:

https://fixthecourt.com/

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
8. I think it will be very interesting to review the actual Justice Department-led investigation
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:58 PM
Sep 2020

into Kavanaugh.

There's no doubt that he was guilty of what Chirstine Blasey Ford accused him of, and his partner in crime there was approached with the soft touch. The investigation of Kavanaugh's behavior at Yale is also of interest.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
9. If the turd gained office through cheating, lying, and stealing votes, with the help
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:58 PM
Sep 2020

of our WORST foreign adversary, EVERY APPOINTMENT, DIRECTIVE, PRESIDENTIAL DECREE he made is invalid and MUST be reversed.

And we ALL know that (cheating, lying, and stealing votes) is exactly how he got where he is.

To allow his actions to stand is a complete mockery of the very foundations of this country.

I know that to address this travesty makes everyone want to throw their hands up and run screaming from the room, but if they AREN'T addressed they will happen again. We need to put on our big boy and girl panties and do what needs to be done. America must not be known for taking the easy way out. Compromising on ANY of these assaults on our democracy would be doing just that.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
19. Thank you. I no longer feel like the Lone Ranger for saying ""something" must be done to
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 03:15 PM
Sep 2020

reverse these appointments.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
20. Thanks for posting this. I just don't believe there's nothing
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 03:27 PM
Sep 2020

We can to about the lawlessness that has gone on over the past four years in regard to the courts and unqualified people being seated.

2naSalit

(86,547 posts)
22. He's been on it for some time, this is six months ago.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:03 PM
Sep 2020

But he has been attacking the BS on a daily basis with his yootoob channel and now a podcast. He's one of our lights in the dark helping us find our way out of this without losing our minds.

crickets

(25,962 posts)
23. D'oh! Translation: I've started paying more attention to him lately. 🤭
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:05 PM
Sep 2020

He definitely is helping with sanity levels.

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