Jezebel.com relentlessly attacks Democrats as if the both-sides-but-Democrats-are-worse

[betsuni]

bullshit is still trendy. I have a decades-long habit of visiting this website, but it's purely hate-reading now. Not even Russian trolls are doing this sort of nonsense anymore, it's too obvious.

The Fearless Girl Wall Street statue is a "corporate feminist avatar," "a literal sponcon for Wall St., commissioned by an investment firm to advocate for more women executives in finance."
http://www.jezebel.com/enough-of-this-please-1845136904

RBG's image as "benevolent matriarch ... was never in step with reality." "Ginsberg espoused incremental change and dutiful compromise ... a path to stagnation rather than lasting change."
http://www.jezebel.com/ruth-bader-ginsberg-alone-was-never-going-to-save-us-1845126301

Ru Paul wins an Emmy and in his acceptance speech urges people to vote. Jezebel turns this into a Susan Sarandon-type nutty anti-fracking attack. "Both the Democratic former Vice President and Republican incumbent Donald Trump are vocal supporters of the environmentally destructive method of resource-extration that Ru's apparently been profiting off of for years."
http://www.jezebel.com/rupaul-reminds-us-to-vote-for-the-pro-fracking-candidate-1845123110

Like "The Producers," trying to go out of business? Hardly any comments on the site anymore, and most correcting the ignorance of the "writers" on the site. What a shame.

[LakeArenal]

1. Never heard of it.

I’m sure there is a lot of RW crap I’m not interested in hearing. Not sure why I should.

[betsuni]

4. It's not right wing crap. Left wing crap.

[tgenerico]

40. It's nominally feminist and left wing, but basically just shit stirring clickbait.

They were part of the Gawker group before Gawker was sued out of business for libel relating to the size of Hulk Hogan's package.

No particular significance as journalists or propagandists.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

50. Likewise

[muriel_volestrangler]

2. Your first link does not mention Democrats in any way at all

It says RBG was better than the corporation who paid for the statue of the girl.

The second mentions John Lewis (approvingly), and that's as close as it gets to Democrats. It says that a feminist like RBG in the Supreme Court was not enough; that a faulty election system needs fixing, and people would then need to use it to implement change.

The third is an attack on RuPaul for owning a ranch on which he gets money for fracking. The link with Democrats is that Biden is not going to ban fracking. That's mentioned, but the article is not mainly about Democrats (or Republicans), and there's no "Democrats are worse" implication.

Why do you think being anti-fracking is "nutty"? It's a responsible environmental stance. It is annoying that Biden said "I am not banning fracking. Let me say that again: I am not banning fracking". If you think that any website must toe the Democratic presidential candidate line 100%, you're being ridiculous (I bet I could find a Democratic politician who says "I want to ban fracking&quot .

[betsuni]

5. LOL

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. Meaning ... what?

You're laughing that I took your bait? That I mistakenly thought you actually cared about what you said?

[betsuni]

13. I'm not the Jezebel writer.

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. I wasn't correcting the Jezebel writers. I was correcting you. (nt)

[betsuni]

16. How so? RBG was a liberal/Democrat.

The writer said "I find this all horrible tiresome."

[muriel_volestrangler]

18. I've never heard of RBG being part of the Democratic party. "Horrible tiresome" is about the firm

and its action. Maybe you should read Jezebel more closely before slagging it off:

“Fearless Girl,” which first appeared opposite the “Charging Bull” in 2017, was commissioned by an investment firm to advocate for more women executives in finance. After news of Ginsburg’s death, that same firm put the collar on the statue and had a photo of it printed in a full-page ad in the New York Times, accompanied by the tagline “Here’s to the original.”

I find all of this horribly tiresome. The statue doesn’t represent any meaningful contribution to feminism, nor is it a meaningful tribute to Ginsburg. In a way though, it is fitting: Just as some people would like to see Fearless Girl as a straightforward representation girl power, so do they wish to think of Ginsburg and her legacy as being purely inspiring and uncomplicated.

[betsuni]

19. Why is advocating for more women executives in finance bad?

[muriel_volestrangler]

25. It's saying that the firm is using the image of RBG to make itself look better

But I'm glad to see you think about the actual piece, rather than continue to think it's about Democrats.

Shall we move on to link number 2?

[betsuni]

26. No it doesn't.

[muriel_volestrangler]

27. The except shows you are wrong.

I don't think you'll get very far if you just deny what's in front of your own eyes. You'd look more convincing if you tried to make an argument, rather than just contradicting things.

[betsuni]

31. "I find all of this terribly tiresome."

What does that mean?

[muriel_volestrangler]

45. It means they find a financial firm using RBG to promote itself very boring and predictable

Because that's what the paragraph before that sentence is about. "This" means "what I have just written about".

[Piasladic]

14. I dont get why you LOLed

It seems that they took on your argument and broke it down. What's funny?

[betsuni]

20. Because it's wrong.

[Piasladic]

21. not really illustrative

Just saying it's wrong doesn't tell me what you think is wrong, why it's wrong, or why it's funny that they are wrong.

[betsuni]

22. Blaming Democrats for what Republicans do is wrong.

[Piasladic]

23. I don't think Muriel was blaming Dems.

I think they were just pointing out errors in your argument. I guess I don't get your sense of humor.

[demmiblue]

28. Thanks for breaking it down.

I read the first article and couldn't figure out what the beef was, so I didn't bother with the others.

I still like 'Fearless Girl', but I also can see the issue the author of the article raises.

Just putting this here... Kamala Harris is against fracking, as well as Inslee, Booker, Warren, etc.

[FelineOverlord]

3. I Used to Like Jezebel

I used to read it a lot right before and after the election.

Especially Barf Bag.

But they have really gone off the rails in the last few months.

[betsuni]

7. thank you.

[Yavin4]

6. This is a right wing or maybe a Russian troll site.

it's psyops. Ramp up the cynicism on the left to depress turnout.

[betsuni]

8. But it pretends to be a left-wing progressive feminist site.

[Sympthsical]

30. It's a very feminist site that's been around for ages

If this is right-wing and Russian, I’m beginning to wonder what could possibly be allowable anymore.

I’m not a fan of the site. They get goofy sometimes.

But Russian? Not everything we dislike is Russian. It’s gotten to the weird conspiracy area at this point. I expect in a month, New York Times? Totally Russian. And someone will trace out why.

[betsuni]

33. Thank you!

[nsd]

34. It's a crappy feminist site. Feminist, yes. But also full of undereducated jerks. /nt

[Sympthsical]

41. Oh, they're not great

I haven’t been able to read the site in ages because the newer writers over time just seem like a bunch of cranks.

But there’s no doubt they’re pretty liberal and will vote Democratic no matter what.

[Demsrule86]

9. Delete this crap...why post it here?

[betsuni]

10. What? Jezebel isn't a right-wing site, it's supposedly feminist and left-wing.

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What's the problem?

[Sunsky]

29. Exactly

Many of us never heard of it, now we do. All this does is spread the vitriol.

[betsuni]

32. It's a feminist left-wing site.

[Sunsky]

35. Never heard of it and from the snippets

posted, I'm glad I haven't.

[betsuni]

36. This is my problem with it. Supposed to be feminist and left-wing and attacks Democrats.

Don't know why this is so difficult to understand. Jezebel has been around forever. Used to be great.

[brooklynite]

11. Why did you include the article about FEARLESS GIRL, which was factually true?

[betsuni]

17. Oh, you also find it "horribly tiresome"?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

37. Context matters for you "horribly tiresome" line you keep trotting out.

Here is the next sentence, too:

I find all of this horribly tiresome. The statue doesn’t represent any meaningful contribution to feminism, nor is it a meaningful tribute to Ginsburg.

What they find tiresome is taking something which is just a corporate attempt to look feminist without actually being feminist and then trying to turn that into a Ginsburg tribute. That is what is tiresome. Do you disagree? Why?

[betsuni]

38. "corporate"

It's a statue. It takes money to fund art. Always has.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

42. Do you find it tiresome that corporations are tying themselves to feminism

without actually doing an actual thing to address the issue? And then coopting RBG? I kind of do. I get it.

[Piasladic]

39. exactly

I keep wondering if it's a reading comprehension issue or something else.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

43. I'm going with "something else."

[melman]

44. Yes

I'll go with that too. Something else.

[ismnotwasm]

46. I love the collar on fearless girl.

One of the things feminism does is promote equality, or rather, at least level the playing field. Pretending Wall Street isn’t relevant To women or can’t be changed To better women’s lives.. as it can’t be immediately eradicated...(or whatever the goal, I don’t understand people who refuse to accept here and now reality) is kinda dumb.

I haven’t been reading Jezebel lately, maybe they got a new crew in.

I know one thing though. At one time, they knew those assholes who refused to support and actively tore down Hillary Clinton were, in fact Disgusting Assholes, (and do continue to be)

We screamed “Supreme Court” as loud and as long as we could. We failed.

And now the price is paid.

[RhodeIslandOne]

47. I don't read them

I hate myself enough. I don't need some privileged white woman who makes enough to afford a loft in New York City vomiting on her laptop her issues.

[ismnotwasm]

48. Don't hate yourself

Don’t do that. You’ve always seemed like a good person to me.

Jezebel is just an online rag with a bunch of opinions. They kinda lost credibility a while back. I think the OP is saying they have moved into actively destructive territory. I quit reading them too, so I don’t know

[RhodeIslandOne]

49. Well thanks for that