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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden refusing to say if he'd expand the courts is basically him saying it.
No need to show your cards but if he didn't support it, he'd say as much. But he didn't.
He said he won't answer it. It's a smart move. He comes out and says he'll do it and it muddles things.
Get elected and, if they have the votes, do it.
wryter2000
(46,039 posts)Your analysis is spot on
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Statistical
(19,264 posts)If Biden doesn't win it is moot. If we don't flip the senate it is moot. No sense in talking about what might happen. It makes even less sense to threaten something you might not be able to do. It comes across as weak and pathetic. Something little kids do.
If you can do it then do it. Don't talk about it. don't threaten it. Just do it. Look at Moscow Mitch. Did he warn in advance that he was going to block Garland? Did he warn in advance that he was going to reverse himself in 2020? Of course not. What would be the point.
He had no idea what the future held. He has no idea that he would be in a position to make either of these things happen. When he was given power he took it and used it.
Mitch is a disgusting human being but he plays the game to win. He has done more than anyone else to redden the country.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)EVER.
He is another loathsome piece of shit, but WORSE than the imbecile in the Oval Office. McConnell KNOWS what he is doing and just how hypocritical and duplicitous it is...he simply does not care at all. Trump is simply stumbling around like a drunk after last call and anything he happens to do is purely accidental or intended to benefit him alone and if someone else is helped it is utterly unintended.
Frasier Balzov
(2,646 posts)I doubt that Joe can.
jorgevlorgan
(8,291 posts)If they didn't get that, he would've easily stacked the court. At this point, all precedent has been thrown out and any good faith is dead. A stacked court is all but certain with Dems controlling the house, Senate and president
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)FDR bungled the plan politically, and it was almost universally viewed as nothing more than a way for him to get his New Deal legislation from being overturned. But when the court started accepting the legislation the issue became moot.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Unlikely to work this time; we'll have to actually execute the plan.
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)Frasier Balzov
(2,646 posts)But others here are enlightening me that the threat alone was enough to evoke flexibility on the part of those Justices at the time.
Doremus
(7,261 posts)If we're so willing to throw up our hands now, without even putting up a fight, why would we expect them to be willing to take on a humongous fight in expanding the court?
It's ridiculous to even think they would. They might consider writing some letters but then again, probably not.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,417 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)If it passes Congress all he has to do is sign the bill. There's no reason for him to say anything at this point.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)But we know that the president often dictates policy. The ACA was Obama's idea but it was up to the congress to pass it. Had Obama refused to push for healthcare reform, they wouldn't have advanced any bill in the House.
If Biden supports it, and wants a bill introduced, it'll be introduced.
Thekaspervote
(32,757 posts)He knows that with an oppressive 6-3 conservative court that anything..any good law we pass will be subject to overthrow. Whats the good in that?
Hell go there when the time is right...not now
FBaggins
(26,731 posts)"I would not get into court packing. We (add) three justices. Next time around, we lose control, they add three justices. We begin to lose any credibility the court has at all.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)In other words, fuck with us at your peril.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)whether you like it or not." Get's us nowhere.
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)GOTV like your life your freedoms your Healthcare the Constitution and the furure of America depends on it!!!!!
still_one
(92,181 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)The same goes for every attempt at forcing him to lay out his cards on anything. If the press won't call out Trump on that kind of shit, then Biden needs to adopt it, as well, if only to point out their hypocrisy. Sauce, goose, gander...
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)They are probably mulling over a lot of things. Right now Biden needs to focus on finishing the campaign strong.
Azathoth
(4,607 posts)I doubt Biden is ready to go after the GOP in any radical, norm-changing sense. He's a lifelong Washington institutionalist.
But at least he's not following the traditional Democratic leadership strategy of preemptively taking things off the table before we even cross swords with the GOP.
PatSeg
(47,418 posts)Joe is a seasoned politician, he will hold his cards close.