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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 03:14 PM Sep 2020

To protect the nation from the Republican Supreme Court we must win and keep control of Congress

In 1993, Bill Clinton was sworn in for a first term with a Senate majority of 57 D to 43 R and a House majority of 258 D to 176 R.

In 1995, the Senate flipped to 47 D to 53 R and the House also flipped 204 D to 230 R. Control of both the Senate and the House stayed in Republican hands by similar margins in Clinton's second term. The Senate and House flipping in '95 stymied further progress in the last 6 years of Clinton's 8 years.

In 2009, Barack Obama was sworn in for a first term with a Senate majority of 58 D plus 2 I to 40 R and a House majority of 257 D to 178 R.

In 2011, the Senate margin decreased to 51 D plus 2 I to 47 R and the House flipped 193 D to 242 R. Control of the Senate stayed with the Ds until 2015 when it flipped to 44 D plus 2 I to 54 R. The House stayed in Republican hands for the last 6 years of Obama's term. Losing the House severely hampered the last 6 years of the Obama presidency.

It appears that the Democratic party has a good chance in 2020 of once again winning control of the Presidency, the Senate and the House as it did in the elections of 1993 and 2008. This may temporarily compensate for Republicans having super majority control of the US Supreme Court.

However, our objective now should be to solidify long term control of both bodies of Congress. We need to avoid rash actions that could once again alienate voters and shift control of Congress to the Republicans in 2022. Only by doing so can we protect the nation from the malign effects of Republican control of the US Supreme Court.

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To protect the nation from the Republican Supreme Court we must win and keep control of Congress (Original Post) Klaralven Sep 2020 OP
If we don't win the Senate, McConnell will block everything Biden tries to do. CrispyQ Sep 2020 #1
We can win the Senate. Democrats controlled the Senate in 8 out of 20 Congresses since 1980 election Klaralven Sep 2020 #4
What rash actions did Obama do? kwolf68 Sep 2020 #2
Clinton passed NAFTA in the face of Democratic opposition in the House. Klaralven Sep 2020 #5
Congress passed the ACA Klaralven Sep 2020 #6
Raising the number of SCOTUS justices is not an extreme action - it is a REQUIRED remedy. lark Sep 2020 #3
America is basically over if we don't expand SCROTUS. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #7
This! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #8

CrispyQ

(36,437 posts)
1. If we don't win the Senate, McConnell will block everything Biden tries to do.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 03:18 PM
Sep 2020

And then the media will say, "See Biden & the dems can't get anything done," & enough voters will believe it & vote repub again. It's a pattern we've seen over & over again.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
4. We can win the Senate. Democrats controlled the Senate in 8 out of 20 Congresses since 1980 election
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 03:29 PM
Sep 2020

Control of the House has been harder recently. Democrats controlled the House in only 4 of the last 14 Congresses beginning with the Clinton administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
2. What rash actions did Obama do?
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 03:20 PM
Sep 2020

He didn't even promote a public option (which I am opposed, but still), and signed onto some of Bush's tax policies that he could have over done. Heck, at the start Obama was even waffling on gay marriage.

Hell, what did Clinton do that was so radical?

Only thing I remember "big" was Hillary was involved in a Health Care task force, but nothing in terms of national health care was ever advanced.

So what were those rash actions that cost Obama and Clinton losses in the congress? I mean what did those guys do that would have created such backlash???? One thing I do know is those two Presidents were vilified as Satan incarnate and ANYTHING they promoted was being advocated as a communist plot to destroy America. Maybe it was as much messaging as anything? Or maybe there is some other reason?

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
5. Clinton passed NAFTA in the face of Democratic opposition in the House.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 03:36 PM
Sep 2020

On January 1, 1994, Clinton signed the North American Free Trade Agreement into law.[106] Throughout his first year in office, Clinton consistently supported ratification of the treaty by the U.S. Senate. Clinton and most of his allies in the Democratic Leadership Committee strongly supported free trade measures; there remained, however, strong disagreement within the party. Opposition came chiefly from anti-trade Republicans, protectionist Democrats and supporters of Ross Perot. The bill passed the house with 234 votes against 200 opposed (132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voting in favor; 156 Democrats, 43 Republicans, and one independent against). The treaty was then ratified by the Senate and signed into law by the president.[106]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton#First_term_(1993%E2%80%931997)

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
6. Congress passed the ACA
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 03:41 PM
Sep 2020

On November 7, 2009, a health care bill featuring the public option was passed in the House.[315][316] On December 24, 2009, the Senate passed its own bill—without a public option—on a party-line vote of 60–39.[317] On March 21, 2010, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) passed by the Senate in December was passed in the House by a vote of 219 to 212.[318] Obama signed the bill into law on March 23, 2010.[319]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Health_care_reform

IIRC, there was the most support in the Senate, driven by sentimentality following Kennedy's death.

lark

(23,078 posts)
3. Raising the number of SCOTUS justices is not an extreme action - it is a REQUIRED remedy.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 03:22 PM
Sep 2020

Repugs have stacked the court and we have to remedy this travesty. Yes, we do have to keep control of Congress, but raising the number of justices and appellate judges is just the smart thing to do. We can't bring hankies to a gun fight and survive.

Other than that, I do agree that most socialistic things should be avoided until later. Raising the number of justices while stopping every single twisted executive order has to be the priorities. Second would be healthcare and then government integrity. drumpf has shown how a criminal can highjack our government because so many things were not codified because they were expected norms. Now we have to codify that a person cannot apply to be president without submitting 10 years of their full tax returns (only information like SS# blocked) and putting teeth to subpoenas and to the emoluments clause. This too is critical for the continuance of our country in the time of PUtin.

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