Assuming the Dems take the Senate and the conservatives are a majority of the SC, we should...

[grobertj]

eliminate the filibuster and pass Medicare for All. Since it's likely ACA will be ruled unconstitutional, we have no choice but to institute a single payer plan. How in the world could the SC rule that Medicare for All is unconstitutional. Medicare has been around for 80 years and has gradually been expanded to more people.

[drray23]

1. that would be the move

it would also enrage the repubs which is a nice bonus.

[Thekaspervote]

2. First maybe drop the eligibility age?

[grobertj]

3. Yea...to 1 day old!!

[Laelth]

4. Hear! Hear!

Give us the UBI too. Germany’s doing it. Why not?

https://www.nationofchange.org/2020/09/21/germany-begins-trial-for-universal-basic-income/



-Laelth

[grobertj]

6. I like it!! The original unemployment insurance was basically the same thing. And it worked.

Family savings increased, and it stopped the bleeding from Covid.

[Laelth]

23. Of course, it worked.

If the poor people have money, they will spend it. That, in turn, will churn the entire economy, and we will all be richer.

-Laelth

[Hoyt]

5. Not convinced ACA will be ruled unconstitutional. That could have been done years

ago. Definitely a concern, but not a given.

[RhodeIslandOne]

7. They will keep adding idiots until it happens

And Amy Creepy Barrett is that kind of idiot.

[grobertj]

8. I hope you're right, but I fear you're wrong.

[Laelth]

11. The appeals court has already ruled that the ACA is unconstitutional.

Unless the SCOTUS reverses that decision (with a 5-3 or 6-3 Republican majority currently seated), the ACA is gone ... kaput ... sayonara.



-Laelth

[Hoyt]

18. I think they ruled the mandate unconstitutional. That's totally different from remaining

ACA provisions.

Even the Cato Institute has asked the SC not to dismantle ACA. I believe they’ll come up with something.

https://www.cato.org/blog/new-obamacare-case-supreme-court-cant-strike-down-whole-law-should-still-grant-relief

[Laelth]

22. I certainly hope so.

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Chief Justice Roberts has creatively found a way to rule that the ACA is constitutional three times at this point, but he had RBG voting with him in those cases. The Court is different, now, and, truth be told, the ACA probably isn’t constitutional if it isn’t a tax (and the mandate is what made it a tax according to Roberts).

We’ll see.

-Laelth

[still_one]

14. I agree Hoyt, at least based on the current case before the SC. Roe however, is on very shaky

ground with the new makeup of the coming SC. What it will do is make it a state issue, and states like California will still allow a woman’s right to choose

If we are able to take the Senate, House, and WH though, we can legislate the equivalent of Roe at the Federal level

[Hoyt]

20. I am hoping it falls that way too. Sometimes the right wing justices surprise us.

They still suck, but throw us a bone every now and then.

[marble falls]

21. Weird as it is there are conservatives who take the Bill of Rights seriously. Justice Black ...

turned himself around:

A U.S. Supreme Court justice was in the Ku Klux Klan—and ...
[Search domain timeline.com/hugo-black-justice-klan-4877fcf6ac75] https://timeline.com/hugo-black-justice-klan-4877fcf6ac75

Hugo Black had been associate justice of the Supreme Court for less than a month when the news broke. In September of 1937, an exposé by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette found proof of Black's membership in the Ku Klux Klan. He had joined in September of 1923, and resigned in July, 1925, as one of his first moves before running for one of Alabama's U.S. Senate seat.

[still_one]

25. That is the example used most often

[still_one]

24. I hope that happens too

[still_one]

9. Medicare has been around more like 50 years, not 80 years, and I wouldn't be so sure that they

would not try to rule Medicare and Social Security as “unconstitutional”


That being said, if we regain the Senate, House, and White House, nothing should be off the table, including the impeachment of SC court judges, increasing the number of SC court judges, making Washington DC and Puerto Rico states, and a host of other issues gained by removing the filibuster

[grobertj]

10. If they ruled Medicare and Social Security, protestors would storm the SC!

[diane in sf]

12. We must expand the court.

[Baitball Blogger]

13. We're going to have to find a historical linguist who can word the bills

in a way that is ironclad for conservatives who take issue with any word that originated after 1958.

[Me.]

16. WE Were Thinking The Same Thing At The Same Time

[Baitball Blogger]

17. LOL!

[Me.]

15. If THe DEms Take The Senate & Still Have The House

Ironclad laws must be passed protecting Obamacare and reproductive right..

[JI7]

19. No , Medicare for all is mostly a slogan right now.