Is it proper and appropriate to compare Trump to Hitler NOW?

[no_hypocrisy]

During 2016, during his rallies, Trump had the trappings of Hitler with his exaggerations, his lies, his appeal to the masses. And we were told, no, Hitler is sui generis. Nobody is like Hitler. When Trump starts shoving bodies into ovens, THEN he's Hitler.

Well, here we are. Trump has concentration camps for refugees searching refuge from the horrors of their countries. He has removed children, some who were breastfeeding, from their parents and "lost" them, never to be returned. He had women in these "detention centers" undergo hysterectomies without their informed consent, leaving them sterile -- and by a man without a medical license and training. Trump has corrupted a political party which has endorsed and enabled him. Trump has taken over the federal courts. Trump has targeted and urged his followers to persecute African-Americans, immigrants in this country, anyone who isn't a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant, anyone without money. Trump has urged his followers to arm themselves for a coming civil war that he created. Trump has allowed 200,000 people to die of a deadly virus that he initially called a "democratic hoax."

If Trump wasn't Hitler four years ago, he certainly appears to be Hitler now.

[johnp3907]

1. Always was.

Saying “Never Forget “ and “Never Again “ doesn’t have any meaning if we don’t continually apply the lessons of history to the present.

[steve2470]

2. yes it is, with the correct differences noted

Trump is not overtly anti-Semitic, but yea, he is way too close for comfort. He uses the Big Lie technique constantly.

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

40. thats cuz he thinks all bankers are jews.

[Kaleva]

3. I find it interesting that Trump is always compared to Hitler but not Mao or Pol Pot

Is it because the murder or imprisonment of millions upon millions of Asians is not much of a deal?

[Pacifist Patriot]

7. Biases of formal education?

My schools all dug in deep on WWII and Hitler, but hardly a word to say about Mao or Pol Pot. And certainly didn't mention Stalin's mass murders of his own people. Idi Amin Who?

Yes, I do believe a western-centric orientation is at the heart of it. Hitler gets way more air time than other fascists or genocidal despots on the History Channel as another example.

[jaxexpat]

18. It's only since the inter-webs that the day-to-day world is available across oceans.

When I was a child, China was as far from the experience of nearly everyone in my community as the moon. When Viet Nam heated up most people couldn't find it on a map. Probably most people still can't but they probably know someone who blogs from there, or could with a few taps on the keyboard.
It's telling how, in a world with one-on-one contact available across the world, xenophobia is the tool-of-preference for the opposition. It won't hold up well over very much time but it will suffice to meet the short term ends of those whose existence revolves around short term profit.
So we are victims of shortsightedness and it's close kin, narrow mindedness. Oh, and also, CRIMINALS in charge of things.

The History Channel is the worst purveyor of war mythology on TV. Their programming grows ever more simplistic with time and acquisition of a loyal audience.

[patphil]

39. Donald Trump has European parents.

Trump's mother was Scottish.
His father was German, the same country Hitler ruled.
So, I guess it's natural to compare Donald with Hitler.
Especially since they seem to have the same style.

[Kaleva]

41. It's euro (white) -centric bias.

[patphil]

42. I don't think so.

The United States fought a war against Hitler in which over 100,000 died and over 400,000 more were wounded. It's way past bias.

It was personal for every American back then; deeply ingrained in the consciousness of the nation. Everyone knew someone who suffered or died in that war.
Now we see our own President headed down the same path Hitler walked.

This isn't bias, it's the real possibility that a Hitler wannabe will take us into the darkness that Germany was immersed in with Hitler.

Neither Mao nor Pol Pot did anything like that to the United States.

[mucifer]

4. No he's more like putin

[uponit7771]

5. K&R, Technically yes. Except for Hitler came to power legally Putin's Whore Don't Trump didn't come

... to power legally and is damn near step by step in some level of amplitude is repeating Hitlers stupidity.

We have to stop denying how wet water is when it comes to Trump

[Dave Starsky]

6. I've been desperately warning people since the 2016 RNC speech.

And in response, all I've gotten is "Godwin' s Law" horseshit thrown in my face. Well, Hitler wasn't Hitler before he was Hitler, for fuck's sake. It takes years for a total sociopath to seize the kind of control needed to play out their darkest fantasies on the world.

There's a reason that figures like Laocoön and Cassandra exist in mythology. Nobody has ever liked a "doom sayer".

[Alacritous Crier]

11. Godwin agrees...

Link to tweet

Mike Godwin #WakandaForever
@sfmnemonic

By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.

[canetoad]

46. Godwin has spoken

[smirkymonkey]

34. +1000

[ronatchig]

8. Yes drump is a Hitler-esque character but

It must be said that the gop has been a fascist party since Ronnie Raygun's goons colluded with the mullahs to steal the 1980 election. They have sharpened their knives since awaiting the right madman.

[hot2na]

29. I see Trump as more of a Mussolini

Also I see a bit of Kim Jong Un. Trump has similarities to all of these dictators. Except that Tump is a fu**ing moron.

[AZ8theist]

37. FUCKING MORON

Here, fixed it for you:

[gab13by13]

9. Give Trump 4 more years,

and we may end up with "Trump's law," that it is unfair to compare Hitler to Trump.

[GoneOffShore]

13. Hadn't thought about that.

[Evolve Dammit]

10. Hitler's speeches had a prominent place on Drumph's nightstand and yes the parallels have been here

[griloco]

12. Not really. Hitler served his country...

[lastlib]

14. No, but Mussolini/Franco/Suharto are fine.....

When "Nacht der Langen Messer" comes, then we have Hitler.

[The Wizard]

15. Hitler was a decorated war hero while Trump

punked out when his country called.

[SKKY]

16. I don't know if a comparison to Hitler is correct, but I do know...

...today's Republican Party is more Fascist than the Democratic Party is Socialist.

[reACTIONary]

27. That's a good comparison. nt

[beachbumbob]

17. better comparision are with the trumps supporters with Hitler's supporters, trump is too stupid

to compare to Hitler

[muntrv]

19. Yes. Is it also proper to respond with Operation Valkyrie?

[tanyev]

20. Some excerpts from Norman Ohler's Blitzed: Drug Use in the Third Reich. Remind you of anyone?

By now Hitler paid scarcely any attention to affairs of state. He preferred to stay up all night, seldom went to bed before six o’clock, and what he liked best of all was talking to Speer about grandiose architectural projects—although these were now purely illusory. Even his loyal arms minister and favorite architect….had to acknowledge that Hitler “frequently took flight from reality and entered his world of fantasy.”

Hitler couldn’t bear failure or weakness: anyone who looked ill, slack, or even uninspired was quickly out the picture. He had often explained the dismissal of a prominent figure as being on grounds simply of ill health.

The supreme commander of the navy came for the Fuhrer’s fifty-fifth birthday…Grand Admiral Karl Donitz asked his commander in chief to do everything to keep the Baltic ports open in return. Hitler, as mad for boats as a child for toys, blindly promised Donitz that he would.

At the midday briefing, in spite of the looming military disaster, to everyone’s astonishment he revealed a beaming face, and at the lunch that followed he fell into one of his endless, distracted monologues. This time it was about elephants, which were the strongest animals in existence, and which, like him, abhorred meat.

Without intoxication the last briefing sessions in March and April 1945 were so depressing as to be terrible. The generals seemed to be trying to hoodwink him all the time…he constantly thought he was being sabotaged. Hitler started shouting, waving his arms around, raging, raving, his face so distorted that it was barely recognizable. It was only through aggression that he could defend himself against the traitors he sensed everywhere.

[NNadir]

21. Hitler became Hitler by degrees and process. Trump...

...is certainly in process.

Notable is that Hitler usurped a democracy in which he never possessed a majority of votes.

I also note that he and many of his enablers either committed suicide or were hanged, and none have a place in history which varies from contempt and vilification.

[jayschool2013]

24. Exactly

Trump's just getting started. The time to stop him in Nov. 3. It's a sad statement that he's lasted this long in office despite his obvious and documented criminality.

[pwb]

22. Dumb and Dumber.

Hitler and Trump.

[ananda]

23. Has been since he campaigned for 2016.

...

His father literally raised him to be a nazi eugenicist.

[dalton99a]

25. Kick

[reACTIONary]

26. Forced sterilization ...

He had women in these "detention centers" undergo hysterectomies without their informed consent, leaving them sterile -- and by a man without a medical license and training.

Are you referring to the reports that are the subject of this post?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142587292

[keithbvadu2]

28. Hitler / Trump - MGGA / MAGA

[ancianita]

30. Anti First Amendment makes him a fascist. Fascists are fascists.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200921/22345845352/trump-still-hates-1st-amendment-meeting-with-state-attorneys-general-to-tell-them-to-investigate-internet-companies-bias.shtml

The Trump administration is expected to urge Republican state attorneys general on Wednesday to investigate social-media sites over allegations they censor conservatives online, escalating the White House’s war with Silicon Valley at a time when tech giants are increasingly taking action against the president’s most controversial posts...

...The reform the AGs want is to remove the state criminal law exemption, which will give them significantly more power to attack internet companies and demand ridiculous concessions that don't serve the public benefit, but do serve to keep the AGs in the headlines for "taking on big tech" and "protecting the children" and other similar nonsense. The reform the President wants is anything that lets him drum up a new bullshit culture war and play the crybaby victim about how big tech is "against" him, even as Facebook and Twitter have been two of the biggest tools to make his short political career viable.

[LW1977]

31. Yes

[CaptYossarian]

32. America and Britain invaded and liberated the Jews and the innocent civilians of Germany.

(While Russia kicked Germany's ass on the Eastern Front)

Who will be there for us?

[athenasatanjesus]

33. Depends on how many centrists still think they are the only adults.

We compare him to Hitler and some centrists that know nothing of history and are barely paying attention to politics can claim we are being too partisan.

[Tom Rinaldo]

35. Objectively, yes. Politically the best term to use is Fascist.

Calling Trump fascist avoids the knee-jerk blow back that directly comparing him to Hitler always triggers. Right now political realities supersede political science in importance. It has taken the public this long to move beyond merely noting Trump's "autocratic tendencies" to viewing his stances as fascistic. Similarities to Hitler naturally flow by inference once Trump's fascistic nature is acknowledged. Leave it there for maximum effect and minimal fake outrage from Republican forces.

[Jetheels]

36. If Hitler had Twitter he would be Trump

By refusing to enable DPA for PPE, testing and tracing, and cancelling mailing the American people masks, Trump-Kushner weaponized Covid-19 against USA, similar to when small pox blankets were weaponized against Native Americans. These actions are nothing less than genocide, extermination.

[Warpy]

38. He's Hitler in the early 1930s

He's trying to obliterate all opposition for eternity while reshaping the government in his own image. His fans listen to his horse shit and say "oh, that's just his style" when they should be taking it very seriously. He has various groups acting as brownshirts and his corrupt AG looks the other way. He's removed any upper national law enforcement and replaced them with toadies.

Welre certainly not seeing Hitler as he was toward the end of the 1930s. We are seeing the beginning, when he clawed his way to the top and eliminated any threat once he got there. The longer he stays where he is, the more he will begin to resemble the Hitler of later years. He is too twisted and damaged to be otherwise.

[BannonsLiver]

43. I've always gotten more of a Mussolini vibe

Both with personality type and general buffoonery.

[Cha]

44. One thing.. I was told trumputin called it a

"democrat hoax".

And, not only by calling it a "democrat hoax for 70 days".. but for spreading lies about it even when the Psycho acknowledged it.. Making sure his maggot Cult were Anti-maskers.

It hasn't done one thing to help people.. only thinks of way to help himself.

[First Speaker]

45. I'd call him a combination of Mussolini and William II of Germany...

...Hitler *is* sui generis. However evil other authoritarians are, Adolf is unique, for pretty obvious reasons. But Trump has Mussolini's cheap comic-opera swagger, his personal vanity, and his hollowness at the core. He also has Kaiser Bill's cunning, but empty of any wisdom; and the Emperor's ability to turn about like a weathervane, prone to follow the advice of anyone who has just spoken to him, empty of real principles except having the world bow and scrape to him. In my opinion, both Mussolini and the Kaiser were morally superior to Trump, which of course isn't saying much...