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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums*Biden's advantage grows nationally and in key states with the news of RBG's passing*
Biden now leads by 9 points nationally (51% to 42%), a 3 point shift in margin towards Biden over two weeks. This is Bidens best performance nationally since late June at the height of the historic George Floyd protests, and is reasonably assumed to be a reaction to the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Trumps favorability has also taken a hit while opinions of Biden have improved. Nationally, Trumps favorability is +16 net unfavorable (down from +13 net unfavorable two weeks ago), and opinions of Biden are net-neutral (48% favorable, 48% unfavorable), a 6 point shift over two weeks.
In the battleground, Biden maintains his advantage across all six of these states Trump carried in 2016.
https://changeresearch.com/post/states-of-play-battleground-wave-14/
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)It looks like he was correct.
Rule of Claw
(500 posts)data from AZ and FL actually show Biden increasing support. ABC was 9 15-20, this is 18-20, and FL St. Pete Polls is 21-22.
All good news.
I feel much better than a few hours ago.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I'd rather be up in the ABC poll and down in these ones than the other way around.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)So these results are surprisingly good. But they run hot and cold in quality.
Throw it on the average.
DrToast
(6,414 posts)If their polls show movement over their prior polls, you can still consider that as a good sign.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)This outfit is inconsistent. We need more PA polling.
Rule of Claw
(500 posts)PA is in this poll release, 49-45 Biden. Consistent with a 7-9 point Biden lead nationally. https://changeresearch.com/post/states-of-play-battleground-wave-14/
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)It will be Biden +1-ish in tomorrows release
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)I saw a tweet from their comms person putting PA at Biden +1 this morning and that poll would be released tomorrow
But they just released a PA poll today at Biden +4
Rule of Claw
(500 posts)if a polling outfit leaked its own release a day early. Even stranger if they undercut their own poll release from a day earlier.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Baldwin Wallace Uni Great Lakes poll.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Boo
Rule of Claw
(500 posts)1. Tied in OH and PA is highly unlikely. Tied in OH means 4-6 pt lead in PA. In line with other polls.
2. My opinion is I find it unprofessional to be giving updates on a poll before final results are in. Because you don't constantly weigh the poll as you absorb the data. Last night she says leads within MOE in PA OH but not she says tied and plus 1? So what if the final results show a Biden SURGE. Ridiculous. You collect data, you weigh data, you release data. This much self promotion is at the least, not industry standard.
Rule of Claw
(500 posts)has previously shown Trump leading PA. Taken against previous polling it would actually be an improvement for Biden.
Not going to give it much weight either way.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Throw it in the trash!
Rule of Claw
(500 posts)So if the final results "trickle in" say, 50 people, but randomly 30 of them are Biden, that might swing the poll 2 percent. But then you have to weigh. We agree: disregard.
Eid Ma Clack Shaw
(490 posts)Tied in Ohio means comfortable Biden elsewhere in the Midwest unless theres something unprecedented going on.
From all Ive seen so far this year, this is a remarkably stable race. Despite an extremely stable national race, my suspicion is that pollsters are being incredibly cautious in battleground states. It, quite frankly, reminds me of 2012, where almost everything - state, national, you name it - was just a bit off in Obamas favour, while showing him ahead on average. I dont think it ever seemed rational that hed dip enough to lose, yet it was constantly portrayed as a race that would be a squeaker; Obama winning the EC while losing the popular vote was mooted by some!
By polling day that year, Romneys probability of victory on 538 had slipped to under 10%, right down from 30ish only a week or two prior. I would not be at all surprised to similar this time around - today, Biden would win 77% of the time. I dont think well see Trump with 1 in 3 odds this time around, put it that way.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)No way are both states essentially even no.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Bc PA is about 4-5 left of OH. Not looking forward to the Doomers tomorrow is all
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Rule of Claw
(500 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Autocorrect
Eid Ma Clack Shaw
(490 posts)Link to tweet
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Amishman
(5,553 posts)"Biden and Democrats are more trusted to appoint the next Supreme Court Justice. Nationally, Biden and Democrats are preferred 54% to 46% and in the battleground, 51% to 49%."
That is a sadly tight margin.
Rule of Claw
(500 posts)I have. 54-45 Biden, National.