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Bingo -Biden up to 78 at 538 (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2020 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2020 #1
Anybody remember how Clinton was doing at this stage in 2016? awesomerwb1 Sep 2020 #2
She was up about a point and half in the polls Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #13
Meaningless bgramer Sep 2020 #3
Sigh BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #4
They are meaningless to be honest.. DemsIn2020 Sep 2020 #14
... BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #15
Nice try! nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #8
It's not meaningless. There were 15% or more undecided voters at this stage in 2016 YessirAtsaFact Sep 2020 #10
hahhahahhahahahah obamanut2012 Sep 2020 #12
An NBA player has a 50% chance of hitting a thirty five foot shot. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2020 #16
Good news to counter the crappy A+ AZ and FL polls budkin Sep 2020 #5
Woo how! Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #6
I'm not going to feel comfortable till it's 98%... dawg day Sep 2020 #7
they said the same with Hillary mshasta Sep 2020 #9
Yup, several days at 76, only TWO days mainly at 77, and now NOOM! obamanut2012 Sep 2020 #11

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Johnny2X2X

(18,953 posts)
13. She was up about a point and half in the polls
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:25 PM
Sep 2020

Predictor was probably in the mid 50s, but she would rise after the Access Hollywood tape.

bgramer

(9 posts)
3. Meaningless
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:23 PM
Sep 2020

With all due respect, as of late, national polls are meaningless. What counts is getting out the vote to ensure we have at least "50%+1" or whatever is the meaningful difference in all the districts that matter to get the electoral votes.

BannonsLiver

(16,278 posts)
4. Sigh
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:26 PM
Sep 2020

It’s clear you know literally nothing about their model. But beyond that, this stuff WILL be discussed by people who are interested in data and polling. If that is so upsetting maybe just keep scrolling. Plenty of other threads to work through 2016 PTSD issues.

 

DemsIn2020

(81 posts)
14. They are meaningless to be honest..
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:34 PM
Sep 2020

They are straight polls, everyone knows Joe is going to win straight, but the election won't be straight. Trump will cheap, intimidate, and then get his cronies to award him after he yells about fraud.

No poll takes that into account, why right now I am more into the senate races. I expect Trump to cheat and to try to stay in power.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
10. It's not meaningless. There were 15% or more undecided voters at this stage in 2016
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:23 PM
Sep 2020

Now, it's more like 4-8%.

Look at the number of polls where Biden is already at 50% or more.

Hillary never polled over 50% in as many states as Biden is.

If this scenario holds and there is anything close to a fair count, Biden wins.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,531 posts)
6. Woo how!
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:51 PM
Sep 2020

To be honest, I would expect this gradual increasing of Biden’s odds, as long as polling remains as stable as it has, and with the decreasing time until Election Day.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
7. I'm not going to feel comfortable till it's 98%...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:12 PM
Sep 2020

Not even then, because I heard that Rove or some other ratfcker is game-planning how to get GOP state legislatures to disallow Dem electors if Biden wins their state and force the GOP electors in, and I'm nervous again.

That would lead to violent riots, I think.

But if Biden wins most of the swing states, and Florida comes in Biden early, well, I hope it all goes through. I just can't believe the GOP would be so suicidal. This is democracy. Sometimes you lose! And sometimes (Gore and Clinton), you WIN and the rules say you lose, and you accept it because democracy is more important than your victory.

But for Trump and the Trumpist Party Previously Known as the GOP, NOTHING is more important than Trump "winning". They would consign the democracy and constitutions and free-and-fair elections to the bonfire for this vicious stupid thug of a wannabe dictator.

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